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Thread: Carrier FE4 cond. pump tie in ?

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    Contractor #1 installed 2) Carrier FE4 infinity fan coils.
    The low voltage saftey of the condensate pumps are not tied in (I found out when the 2nd floor flooded last summer)
    Fired #1 (no insurance), units installed and up and running

    Contractor #2, Hired him to come in and check the charge on the units and check over the install, $900.00 later, and He does not se how the condensate low voltage can tie into the FE4's Board.

    Contractor #3 - he does not know.

    So how does the Condensate low voltage "cutout" tie into the Infinity system. I have all the manuals (tech and owner)
    and it never mentions the condensate pump ??

    Thanks,
    Nick

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    Normally you break either the power to the thermostat or if cooling only, break the signal to the outdoor unit. I would think that would still be possible but dash, our Infinity fan, better confirm.

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    It's one thing ,that Infinities designers overlooked.It can be done though it will cut all low voltage to the control,and provide no display of the problem.

    There are 4 wires,two are digital signals for controls,the other two are the 24v power,so you wire it to break the 24 volts.If I remember correctly it's best to interupt "D",double check to diagram to be sure.

    If you don't have two speed outdoor units,you can interupt the compressor contactor to the outdoor unit from the air handler.But if it's a two speed compressor the signals are digital,no way to interupt ,so break the 24V.

    Maybe the next generation will address this in a better way.

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    Break D to UI. Kills it all. H/O will know there's an issue at that point.

    Oh, ya...I'm back...learning to overlook the stupid posts.

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    Originally posted by jrbenny
    Break D to UI. Kills it all. H/O will know there's an issue at that point.

    Oh, ya...I'm back...learning to overlook the stupid posts.

    Gald you're back,value your opinions,need a little more "deep blue" around here.

    Now tell how the SM's meeting in Florida went!LOL

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    Bout time your back. Thpought our "local" lad said somethng about breaking the communication line w/ single speed outdoor and D w/ tdb/ydb

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    oh, and for my brothrs in arms, Carrier has came out w/ a wonderful manual, it has all the heat wave, puron, inf, zone, it is the bible now a days
    great book, give it to my techs and i use one to,
    lot of gray matter you know.

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    Originally posted by htinglky
    oh, and for my brothrs in arms, Carrier has came out w/ a wonderful manual, it has all the heat wave, puron, inf, zone, it is the bible now a days
    great book, give it to my techs and i use one to,
    lot of gray matter you know.

    Got any more info on that manual such as a number or a
    title? Is it available for downloading @ the partners site?

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    dont know about partners but it is a few hundred pages so I suspect it wouold take awhile.
    Got ours from our local carrier rep,
    We affectionaly call it the blue bible

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    Thanks, I'll check w/ our distributer Monday.

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    How about sharing that catalog number?
    mcair

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    not a catalog number associated with it. something that we put together locally. All current pdf's for service/install on residential products in one binder.

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    Talking

    It didnt have one on the book, I will ask Jrbenny to post monday when I see him w/ the #

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    I will type in all the Cat numbers tomorrow so you all can see them.
    Rob what about the warrenty page?
    Dash, are you any where's close to Fort Meyers?
    My daughter and son in law are talking about buying a house and I want a good carrier rep to take care of them.
    Thanks

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    Talking

    you can wire in the safety to the 24 volt transformer before it gets to the air handler board. Iwould also recommend one of the wagner wet switches since the P traps always clog before the pumps do ,they work well. again these go in the wiring before the infinity control board

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    Originally posted by htinglky
    I will type in all the Cat numbers tomorrow so you all can see them.
    Rob what about the warrenty page?
    Dash, are you any where's close to Fort Meyers?
    My daughter and son in law are talking about buying a house and I want a good carrier rep to take care of them.
    Thanks
    Charlie Greer lives in Ft. Meyers. If you go to his web site http://www.profitboosters.com there is an email link there. He can put you in touch with cream of the crop.

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    thanks

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    mvp trouble shoot #535-80083
    mvp start up/install #535-80110
    service/maint mta #535-80098
    " " mxa #535-80099
    Inst, start up, ops and ser cva # form 58CV-3SI
    CVA troubleshoot #535-80107
    AHU ser manual #03FA-4A3
    Inst, start up, ops and ser sta/stx form 58ST-11SI
    " " " " " dla/dlx Form 58DL-3SI
    " " " " " cta/ctx Form 58CT-4SI
    puron app guide,ser man 533-781 (FE AHU #63FE-4A0)
    R22 " " " " 563-732
    thermidistats 03TS-TA17
    " Wiring 03TS-TA18 thats all folks!
    programable 03TS-TA2
    duel fuel (my favorite) 03TS-TA9
    Non prog 03TS-TA5
    Infinity, install, sraet up 809-50020
    " zone 809-50025
    " net innerface 809-50015

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    Originally posted by htinglky
    I will type in all the Cat numbers tomorrow so you all can see them.
    Rob what about the warrenty page?
    Dash, are you any where's close to Fort Meyers?
    My daughter and son in law are talking about buying a house and I want a good carrier rep to take care of them.
    Thanks

    Ellsworth Htg & Cooling,William Barnes,239-995-6005


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    thank you

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