Page 1 of 8 12345678 LastLast
Results 1 to 13 of 93

Thread: Joel Osteen

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    12,077

    Joel Osteen

    I grew up Catholic. Alter Boy, catholic grade school, the whole shebang. When I left home, at 18, that was the end of that. I never cared for it. Thought it was nonsense. Still think most of the catholic stuff is cult like. MY OPINION>

    In the last year, I catch Joel Osteen on Sunday Mornings on TV. I like this guy. He's so dang positive. He doesn't ask for money. And through time he has proven to be an okay dude.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Louisville, KY
    Posts
    12,189
    Here come the JO haters.... ducking.
    Perhaps you should have read the instructions before calling.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Charlotte, N.C.
    Posts
    965
    Just wait he too will get caught in a scandal, sleeping around on his wife, embezzling money, drugs. They are all the same.
    Those who restrain desire do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained. (William Blake)

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Float'N Vally, MS
    Posts
    1,874
    The wife watches the first few minuets of his show for the jokes....
    Life is too short, Behappy!
    TFMM

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southeastern Pa
    Posts
    19,525
    Since you brought him up, I'll give an opinion.

    I don't "hate" the guy.

    I think everyone should be positive, to the extent possible for them.

    HOWEVER..

    being positive and friendly is not a good alternative to good, solid, Bible based sermons. We, as His creation, are supposed to learn the Word, and you can watch Osteen for a year and not know who made us, what sin is, or how we can avoid the punishment for our sin that we all deserve. Or, that God loves us in spite of our sin, our turning away from Him, our many distractions, etc, and provided the sacrifice to end all sacrifices to stand in our place, so we don't have to. Now that's love.

    The Osteen gospel is one of encouragement, but not one of knowing God. It's more like he had written a self-help book about feeling good.

    And, there is much more that we are supposed to understand.
    [Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
    2 Tim 3:16-17

    RSES CMS, HVAC Electrical Specialist

    AOP Forum Rules:







  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southeastern Pa
    Posts
    19,525
    Quote Originally Posted by trey r View Post
    Just wait he too will get caught in a scandal, sleeping around on his wife, embezzling money, drugs. They are all the same.
    Let me know when "they" all become "the same."
    [Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
    2 Tim 3:16-17

    RSES CMS, HVAC Electrical Specialist

    AOP Forum Rules:







  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Louisville, KY
    Posts
    12,189
    Osteen will tell you that he leads people to Jesus. The Bible studies within his church or your local church are for edification. It's not his preaching. Saw an interview with him last year. Completely changed my opinion of the guy.
    Perhaps you should have read the instructions before calling.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southeastern Pa
    Posts
    19,525
    Quote Originally Posted by jrbenny View Post
    Osteen will tell you that he leads people to Jesus. The Bible studies within his church or your local church are for edification. It's not his preaching. Saw an interview with him last year. Completely changed my opinion of the guy.

    Who benefits from Osteen not preaching the Word?

    Any guesses?
    [Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
    2 Tim 3:16-17

    RSES CMS, HVAC Electrical Specialist

    AOP Forum Rules:







  9. #9
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Charlotte, N.C.
    Posts
    965
    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Let me know when "they" all become "the same."

    All TV evangelist are the same as they are in it for the money.
    Why would a man who is truly working for the lord have a multimillion dollar salary? Pay him 50k a year and see how positive he is.

    In my opinion he should have an honest salary and the rest should be used for outreach and providing for the needs of the community.

    No honest man blinks that much. LOL
    Those who restrain desire do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained. (William Blake)

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Brea, CA
    Posts
    26

    Jim Bakker

    Flipping through the channels the other night I saw that Jim Bakker had his own TV show again. I only caught about 10 minutes of the show, but 8 of those minutes was hawking stuff you got for free with a good will offering. One free offering was $5000.

    If he doesn't make it as a TV preacher, he could be a travelling AC sales roadie. We could learn a lot from a guy like that.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southeastern Pa
    Posts
    19,525
    Quote Originally Posted by trey r View Post
    All TV evangelist are the same as they are in it for the money.
    Why would a man who is truly working for the lord have a multimillion dollar salary? Pay him 50k a year and see how positive he is.

    In my opinion he should have an honest salary and the rest should be used for outreach and providing for the needs of the community.

    No honest man blinks that much. LOL
    I don't believe that anyone has a moral imperative to decide what an "honest" salary is for anyone else.

    The fact is that the more money you make, the more you can use to support the work of missionaries, and to get your own message out.

    If you only make 50k, how many missions can you support?

    The issue is not how much one makes, it is whether or not you reflect the truth of what you are preaching in your own life. If you are Jim Baker, then clearly you are not "practicing what you preach."

    The biggest problem I have with the gospel according to Osteen is that those who are watching and attending are not seeing and learning what the Bible says they should. This is essentially a "replacement gospel."
    [Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
    2 Tim 3:16-17

    RSES CMS, HVAC Electrical Specialist

    AOP Forum Rules:







  12. #12
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    where the beer flows like wine
    Posts
    2,871
    Joel Osteen is to religion like the WWE is to real wrestling, I believe its called bubblegum preaching. Osteen would make an awesome used car salesman or Washington politician. I neither like him nor hate him.

  13. #13
    I've never been good at putting my thoughts together on such things, so I'll quote another...

    "Hear me and hear me well - a man that professes to believe the Bible and refuses to warn people about hell; either does not really believe that Bible, or they are the worse criminal and villain on this earth! And I don't care how big a church they have, or how nice, sweet, loving, compassionate or pious they may sound - they are a wicked devil in disguise!"---Dr. Terry Watkins

    ...that should go over well.
    (The wise men of modern thought) adore a god made of putty or of wax - plastic, effeminate, molluscous, with no masculine faculty about him, and no quality that entitles him to the respect of just and honest men, for a being who cannot be angry at wrongdoing is destitute of one of the essential virtues, and a moral Ruler who is not angry with the wicked, and who refuses to punish crime, is not divine. ---Spurgeon

Page 1 of 8 12345678 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Comfortech Show Promo Image

Related Forums

Plumbing Talks | Contractor Magazine
Forums | Electrical Construction & Maintenance (EC&M) Magazine
Comfortech365 Virtual Event