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  1. #14
    Rent a set of cast iron snappers. If the cast is any good you can snap it real quick and add a Fernco and make it much easier to clean. If the cast crumbles and won't snap....then you have a start on a new line then.


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    Originally posted by tinner73
    he came over with a camera-snake. pretty cool set-up.
    Every time I think of this sewer camera setup I wonder if it takes a while to get accustomed to what you see on the screen! I guess you just don't do it immediately after lunch. I imagine seeing something laying in the line that was best left alone. Maybe it's just one of those things that makes me squeamish, but I mean, you know those plumber dudes have to make snide comments about their customers eating &/or sanitary habits or whatever when the customer isn't standing there. Imagine looking out the window to see them rolling on the ground laughing after watching that movie!! Talk about embarassing!
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    Actually, a lot of the time the pipe is full of water and you can't see anything. Rent a set of cutters, or use a zipcut wheel on a side grinder. Sawzall with long blade works too. Put the clean out in and then send down the camera. Once you find the problem, then decide if it needs to be replaced. Mini backhoe will give you a new trench real quick.
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    the problem i had was the roots of a tree coming in through the connections of the clay tile , from the top of the connection as well. it would catch all the TP and "stuff", like a big net. the camera showed no fittings in the line, but in reality the sewer set over about 5' in the ground. they just used straight pipe and pushed it. the guy used a mini backhoe and it took about 12 hours on Sat. he did try to hand dig at first. my front yard is a huge mess, but it's done. i did try that copper sulfate but it only stays on the bottom of the pipe. my roots came from the top. i did have quotes from $2-3K. i got it done for $30/hr and machine rental $270. totalled $1100. now i'm waiting for an inspector to ring my doorbell.
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    Having roots in your sewer line does not necessarly mean that you have holes like a sive. One or more small roots can penetrate a sewer line and grow in the line until they become a proble.
    Although you do need a clean out there are other methods. On larger sewer lines I would never use a snake. Call Rescue Rooter and have your main water jetted. They an start at the toilet flange and carry all they way to the street.
    A water jet has a sphere at the end of a high presssure line. Usually there are 4 holes drilled in the sphere that pulse water out of them backwards. This gives the line thrust down the pipe. When using a snake the stuff just lays in the line and you have to try and wash it out. With a water jet it will wash the line as it cleans it. If done properly a water jet should completely clean out a sewer line.
    Len
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    Talking

    Originally posted by benncool


    What ever is leaking "OUT" of the cast iron I know is going to a good place.

    Its all been going towards that new swimming pool you will have in your yard sooner or later. Those root eater chemicals tend to help eat away at that cast iron as well.
    Just remember who's to blame when you end up waste deep, in you know what.

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    You sure you don't have a house trap they can use? You real sure??
    That pipe outside is probably for your gutters, you have combo sewers or seperate sewers in your area?
    Hey cockroach, don't bug me!

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    Smile water is flowing again

    Well I got the water flowing again. I dug a 3' deep by 5' long trench along the drain pipe. Turn out the cast iron transitions to clay right after it leaves the house and does a 90 deg. turn to the street. Well the big 6" pipe that came out of the ground (read above) was an attempt to cover someone else's effort to clean out the drain who knows how long ago. I dug out this pipe and found that it was over a big knocked out chunk of the top of the clay pipe. Well, lots of roots were filling the pipe here. I rented a roto rooter machine and fed it up stream about 10 feet and down stream 100' most likely into the main out in the street. Water is ripping now. Ran the bathtub full blast, washing machine, kitchen sink and flushed both toilets repeatedly and maintained good flow through out. I covered the cracked hole with some sheet metal flashing to keep dirt from falling into the pipe. I will see if this pipe stays clear for a while then decide what to do. If a couple of months go by with no problems, I'll probably just replace the clay from the cast iron, the 90 turn and the section where the chunk is out. And install a proper cleanout. Thanks for all the good advice on this project.

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    Re: water is flowing again

    Originally posted by spideyz
    Thanks for all the good advice on this project.
    Yeah, think of us when ever you flush.

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    You might want to install some turning veins at the 90 degree turn in order to cut down on TURDulence.

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    Like the guys said, you still need to treat those roots, they will find a way in there for sure.
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    The Root Destroy don't work immedietly. Put in in a 1/4 container at a time and flush it untill the container is empty before you go to bed. You do this in the spring and fall.

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    Re: water is flowing again

    Originally posted by spideyz
    I rented a roto rooter machine and fed it up stream about 10 feet and down stream 100' most likely into the main out in the street.
    So that's what that weird looking thing was wiggling around in my toilet this morning! Good job. I always heard a good plumber was nothing more than an HVAC man with his brains knocked out!
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