im wondering how someone integrates lieberts into a lon network without gateways and i cant understand why they wont give up on that sitescan crap (alc)and just develop open drivers im working on a job where liebert lost out on selling 70 30 ton units soley because the customer didnt want to deal with sitescan,they bought data aire .it will be interesting to see how the change in the military control spec(all lon)affects there methods or sales