ICECAP: Science, not politics.

[Space Racer]

ICECAP, International Climate and Environmental Change Assessment Project, is the portal to all things climate for elected officials and staffers, journalists, scientists, educators and the public. It provides access to a new and growing global society of respected scientists and journalists that are not deniers that our climate is dynamic (the only constant in nature is change) and that man plays a role in climate change through urbanization, land use changes and the introduction of greenhouse gases and aerosols, but who also believe that natural cycles such as those in the sun and oceans are also important contributors to the global changes in our climate and weather. We worry the sole focus on greenhouse gases and the unwise reliance on imperfect climate models while ignoring real data may leave civilization unprepared for a sudden climate shift that history tells us will occur again, very possibly soon.

Through ICECAP you will have rapid access to our experts here in the United States and to experts and partner organizations worldwide, many of whom maintain popular web sites or insightful blogs or newsletters, write and present papers, have authored books and offer interviews to the media on climate issues. We spotlight new findings in peer-review papers and reports and rapidly respond to fallacies or exaggerations in papers, stories or programs and any misinformation efforts by the media, politicians and advocacy groups.

ICECAP is not funded by large corporations that might benefit from the status quo but by private investors who believe in the need for free exchange of ideas on this and other important issues of the day. Our working group is comprised of members from all ends of the political spectrum. This is not about politics but about science.

From http://icecap.us/index.php/go/about-us

This website has an excellent FAQ section. Check it out.

[pageyjim]

Let's see who is behind ICECAP US.

Robert C. Balling Jr -Balling has acknowledged receiving $408,000 in research funding from the fossil fuel industry over the last decade (of which his University takes 50% for overhead). Contributors include ExxonMobil, the British Coal Corporation, Cyprus Minerals and get this OPEC!!!

Sallie Baliunas – Between December 1998 and September 2001 she was listed as a “Scientific Adviser” to the Greening Earth Society, a group that was funded and controlled by the Western Fuels Association (WFA), an association of coal-burning utility companies.

Robert M. Carter- Sits on the advisory board os the Institute of Public Affairs which is funded by the mining and tobacco industry along with Monsanto.

Reid A. Bryson- While certainly a climatologist and skeptic, Dr. Bryson passed away last year yet is still listed on icecap as being a consultant. Maybe they discovered how to channel the deceased?

[Space Racer]

Nobody is perfect.

[pageyjim]

Nobody is perfect.

LOL

I like your sig. I know vacuum pump oil is not changed enough.

[Space Racer]

And those are just a few of the many scientists at ICECAP. See http://icecap.us/index.php/go/experts for a partial list.

Thanks.

[printer2]

The Web site domain name for ICECAP was registered on October 20, 2006 by Joseph D'Aleo, who is listed among the personnel of the Science and Public Policy Institute, another organization that promotes the views of global warming skeptics that is backed by the Frontiers of Freedom[2].

Contributors to ICECAP include:
* Joseph D'Aleo, Executive Director, Certified Consultant Meteorologist;
* Robert C. Balling Jr, Professor of Climatology, Arizona State University;
* Sallie L. Baliunas, Astrophysicist;
* Thomas A. Birkland, Professor of Public Policy at North Carolina State University (formerly at The State University of New York at Albany);
* The late Reid Bryson, Ph.D. D.Sc. D.Engr., Global 500 Laureate, Senior Scientist, Center for Climatic Research, Emeritus Prof. of Meteorology, of Geography, and of Environmental Studies, University of Wisconsin;
* Robert Carter, Researcher, James Cook University, Australia;
* John Coleman, Founder of The Weather Channel, TV Meteorologist KUSI-TV, San Diego
* William Cotton, Professor in the Department of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University; and
* Chris De Freitas, climate scientist in the School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science at the University of Auckland.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ICECAP

Chris De Freitas

The Friends of Science Society was founded in 2002 by a group of active and retired Calgary geologists and engineers, with a website operating from at least October 2002. From the beginning, opposition to Kyoto was front and centre.

“In the late ’90s we had a visit from Dr. Chris de Freitas–he came and spoke to the Geological Society twice,” said Friends of Science vice-president Eric Loughead. “He was an expert with respect to the IPCC and in both cases he was very critical of what was being said about the role of carbon dioxide in global warming. We all left the luncheon speeches all shaking our heads that this silliness was going on.”

De Freitas became one of four initial Friends of Science “professional contacts”. The local connection had came through his brother Tim de Freitas, who worked for Imperial Oil and then Talisman Energy, and served as editor of the Canadian Society of Petroleum Geologists Bulletin.

In June 2002, Tim de Freitas published a controversial paper by his brother Chris entitled Are observed changes in the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere really dangerous?

Well that is another one on the list that is less than perfect.

http://initforthegold.blogspot.com/2...ions-from.html

[Space Racer]

Are you on a witch hunt?
Do you think everyone at ICECAP is corrupt?

Give me a break.

[printer2]

Are you on a witch hunt?
Do you think everyone at ICECAP is corrupt?

Give me a break.

You think every scientist that does science on global warming is corrupt. Seems the ICECAP people's past has a way of following them around.

Sure, take a break.

[Space Racer]

I never accused any scientist of being corrupt; nor did I imply it. I am trying to be objective. You apparently have an agenda.

[printer2]

I never accused any scientist of being corrupt; nor did I imply it. I am trying to be objective. You apparently have an agenda.

Sorry, mixing up your post with another poster. Just seemed that you started a bunch of threads on the same theme taking a non-global warming bent. Glad you are objective.

My agenda from the start here was to ask questions others seem to miss.