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  1. #1
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    Can anyone estimate how many iLon100 webservers are in use today?
    maybe someone can break it down by region; i.e. North America, Europe, etc.
    Would appreciate comments about their reliability, problems, basically good and bads.
    Peace,
    Amigo

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    lots

    I have 13 that i've installed and i love em..
    one of the best products i ever used....

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    e2 version is much better especially when using JAWS.

    I'd call Echelon on the sales numbers of 100's, but I'd say that the number used is going to go up rapidly. For the price, they do quite alot.

    We are at the point now where we have a 100 running 746 NVE's total with 90-100 at any one time and it's not a problem. (500 NVE's is Echelon's line in the sand)

    Very reliable and no MSoft OS to deal with.

    There are a few issues, however, you would have to detail what you are looking for better.

    Have you looked at Echelon discussion group?


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    I agree that e2 is much much better than previous.
    I have also looked at echelon's web site.
    I just wish there were better tools that fully utilize iLon100's concept and capability, suggestions are welcomed.
    In my opinion:
    Webgen is just okay,
    ivue needs a lot of improvement,
    dotvision also needs a lot of improvment.

    For now I guess it is back to manual scripting for this old soul.

    I have to say though that I wish echelon would publish a list of their bugs, and not gouge people through support contracts of $4k a pop. That is the most disappointing thing about echelon.
    Hoping things will change,
    amigo

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    The ilon100 is mostly a base.

    Maybe look into Quark's InetSupervisor.

    We are developing our own "Auto-gen" program that allows for quick template designs of controllers to the ilon. We are also utilizing JAWs as it's much better than previous efforts.

    It still has a very nice price point and no Msoft OS.

    I hear they are going to open the box up a bit. That will be helpful.

    $4k a year? - ASME wants over $10K just to have the privilege of reading their stuff so everything is relative.

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    You are right, everyhting is relative.
    But it is ridiculous to spend time and on top of pay them
    to find out their software bugs.

    Have tested Inet and Adam is super smart and nice guy, but really we are talking about small-medium commercial jobs. Inet is too complex.
    I hear he is working on embedding Inet in a box, like tridium or plexus.
    For now, I rather stick with iLon.

    be cool,
    A

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    Loytec box.... as I hear. Should be nice.

    Echelon has a tendency to cop an attitude than be straight.... the vendors say the same.

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    I may be wrong since I'm just a training guy but I believe Echelon Integrator Support starts at $2k per year. You can get a quote by calling the inside sales folks at 1-888-ECHELON.
    I do know that some integration companies think that it's like adding a new employee at a very low cost. They can call and ask as many questions as often as they want.
    For the cost-sensitive integrator, you can get support questions answered via email for free - lonsupport@echelon.com

    -lb
    A hundred million nodes - it's a LON story.

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    When you get too deep into the iLON, Echelon considers that development and not integration. Hence, the 4K contract.
    This is all fine, all I need is a section on Echelon's web site with past and present issues of iLON100.
    Discussion groups gives you a glimpse, but that is it.
    Is that too much to ask?
    For now, trial and error, here I come.
    trying to be cool and sane, A.

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    Try the knowledge base at http://www.echelon.com/support/kb/se...=ilon&prodID=0 Although, it's a little limited when you don't have a support contract.
    Adios,
    lb
    A hundred million nodes - it's a LON story.

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    InetSupervisor

    Gentelman
    A new version of InetSupervisor Suite will be released in August 2005. This version has a build in graphics generator that will produce web pages by selecting Lon devices and pressing a button.

    Also we have duplicated functionality of the LonMaker Browser via a web page. Now you can browse the LNS network in IExplorer.

    The new version also comes with BACnet over IP driver....

    You are welcome to contact me with any questions.

    Adam Guzik
    aguzik@quarkCommunications.us
    http://www.inetSupervisor.com
    760 634 6845

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    It's going to be quite a bit easier to work with the ilon in the very near future.


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