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  • A responsible news organization?

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    11 34.38%
  • A neutral agency only interested in the truth?

    9 28.13%
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    7 21.88%
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  1. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    If our elected idiots were smart, they wouldn't have to worry about this wikileaks because there wouldn't be anything to leak.

    Bunch a idiots running amuck making a damn fool out of America.

    Three things cannot be hidden long; the sun, the moon, and the truth!
    You may well be very correct, but the world cannot operate without dirty politics as long as there is one person willing to play dirty.

    We all complain about how our presidents do their jobs and the decisions they make that sometimes seem to make no sense, but the president has information that we don't have and the president has to be someone who is willing to make very tough decisions.

    I do not put Obama in this catagory because Obama is not making difficult decisions, he is making decisions based strictly on whoever is behind him and what ever their agenda to change the U.S. is.

    So, in this case, our leaders may have to decide that taking away some of our rights is neccesary in order to prevent many of us from being killed. As unpopular and difficult as that may seem, other presidential decisions have had to be made to allow so many to die in order to save many more lives.

    Think of it this way; Could you make the decision to allow an innocent child to be murdered if it was the only way to save a hundred innocent children? That is equivelant to some of the decisions that presidents and other leaders must make at times.
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    I, like everyone else ( IMO ) would really like to know the owners TRUE intent behind the leaks....

    But saying that, have ya'll seen ANYTHING that seems to contribute to a danger to the US, except for embarrassement to our politicians????

    So, far there has been 3 releases, if I am correct in this, & yet, NO major blows to the US have been achieved, unless I have missed something...

    I do think that way too much governmental "goings on' are way too secret & need to be publicized & that, to me, seems what is actually going on.

    I'm still waiting for the UFO stuff to come out...you know, about how our government has known about alien life for decades, but has kept it quite for "national security reasons".

    So far, nothing GOOD has come from any of the leaks...

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    Yep, so far I haven't seen any thing that common sense could not deduce. Then again, 7/5th s of the population do not understand fractions either.
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    My opinion, but I think Wikileaks is an irresponsible news organization. It seems to me that they operate under the creedo "your right to know supersedes your right to exist" mentality. If you have looked at the "about us" portion of their website, you will see why. Here are just a few excerpts that support my viewpoint:

    Publishing improves transparency, and this transparency creates a better society for all people. Better scrutiny leads to reduced corruption and stronger democracies in all society's institutions, including government, corporations and other organisations. A healthy, vibrant and inquisitive journalistic media plays a vital role in achieving these goals. We are part of that media.
    Pure socialism. The above quote almost seems utopian in nature.

    Scrutiny requires information. Historically, information has been costly in terms of human life, human rights and economics. As a result of technical advances particularly the internet and cryptography - the risks of conveying important information can be lowered. In its landmark ruling on the Pentagon Papers, the US Supreme Court ruled that "only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government." We agree.
    Seriously? This is a non-US institution, and they're using our own documents and Supreme Court rulings to justify their positions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phbsales View Post
    My opinion, but I think Wikileaks is an irresponsible news organization. It seems to me that they operate under the creedo "your right to know supersedes your right to exist" mentality. If you have looked at the "about us" portion of their website, you will see why. Here are just a few excerpts that support my viewpoint:



    Pure socialism. The above quote almost seems utopian in nature.



    Seriously? This is a non-US institution, and they're using our own documents and Supreme Court rulings to justify their positions?

    Transparancy and less corruption and examples of socialism and utopia?

    And it makes perfect sense to use our own laws and court rulings to justify what they are doing. Would using the World Court make more sense to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    Transparancy and less corruption and examples of socialism and utopia?

    And it makes perfect sense to use our own laws and court rulings to justify what they are doing. Would using the World Court make more sense to you?
    I'm not changing my opinion. You call it as you see it. I'll do the same.

    "World Court" indeed.........

    You could also call wiki leaks the "Ministry of Truth"

    Big brother is watching you...........LOL

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    Wiki leaks was founded as a whistle blower site around 2000.

    I do not support the release of classified United States information to the public. It does a lot more then embarrass a few diplomats and politicians. We will never really know how much damage was done to our intelligence gathering capabilities. We will never know how many informants were outed and possibly killed. The list can go on and on.

    The big question we need to ask is how did they get this info. I am not buying the official gubmint line that an Army private was able to get on a secure computer and download to CD's labeled "Lady Ga Ga" very sensitive info. I smell a patsy just like that guard at Abu Ghraib.

    One interesting thing I did hear about that was leaked was the fact that Saudi Arabia, who is the largest funder of terrorists in the world, begged the US to bomb Iran. So did the Israelis. I say let them use the jets we sold them to bomb Iran themselves. I am getting sick and tired of fighting everyone else's battles.
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    From what I can tell what Wikileaks is about is not letting the people in power manipulate the public by feeding them a line while the reality is really something else. That being said I think they did the future a disservice here. Sure now the world knows that Muslim Arabs are against Iran and would like to see them knocked down a step or two. Mind you now we know to what extent. We also know now that North Korea is not important to China and that they would be OK with South Korea running the place as long as they do not threaten China.

    These kinds of tidbits are what diplomats say to each other or pass on to their governments. It is a way to give other countries your government's true inclinations while still saving face in public. Now these back channel communications are in jeopardy as sources from other countries are now going to be less candid when talking to the US. This leak divides countries more rather than makes for a more open world.

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    I am not buying the official gubmint line that an Army private was able to get on a secure computer and download to CD's labeled "Lady Ga Ga" very sensitive info.
    So you think the federal government is a well oiled efficient machine, they spend our money frugally ???

    They may be "well greased" BUT they are more like the keystone kops.

    Why else would they be more concerned with "don't ask don't tell" than how we keep secrets in the military or why radical muslims can serve in the military without anyone noticing and then kill American soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    From what I can tell what Wikileaks is about is not letting the people in power manipulate the public by feeding them a line while the reality is really something else. That being said I think they did the future a disservice here. Sure now the world knows that Muslim Arabs are against Iran and would like to see them knocked down a step or two. Mind you now we know to what extent. We also know now that North Korea is not important to China and that they would be OK with South Korea running the place as long as they do not threaten China.

    These kinds of tidbits are what diplomats say to each other or pass on to their governments. It is a way to give other countries your government's true inclinations while still saving face in public. Now these back channel communications are in jeopardy as sources from other countries are now going to be less candid when talking to the US. This leak divides countries more rather than makes for a more open world.
    How do you know what diplomats say to each other and pass on to their governments? Is there something you would rather tell us instead of us learning about it from WikiLeaks?

    Classified is classified. What we have here is sloppy intelligence and lack of loyal persons in key places. Our society has bred these kind of people who will sell out their countries and allow others to die so they can make more money that they can't do a damned thing with when they die.

    WikiLeaks is not a whistle blower. WikiLeaks is an information conduit that anyone with any integrety would not be feeding.

    You better believe that the people at WikiLeaks and the organization itself have plenty of secrets that they are not telling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    How do you know what diplomats say to each other and pass on to their governments? Is there something you would rather tell us instead of us learning about it from WikiLeaks?
    There were a number of examples given on the news today.


    I would rather tell you about me and the pretty little lass on the fifth floor than you hearing it from WikiLeaks first but so far nothing has happened.

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    Well, I,m Canadian, and it kind of makes me mad to find out Obama had people getting information about Canadian Diplomats and Government officials.
    O.K. I understand you Americans not being able to sleep at night because Canada is such a volitile and angry Country, I personally apologise for putting your Nation in fear of the 3 Boats the Canadian Navy has and for the threat of us cross country skiing to the border(which for some strange reason increases the temperature by 40 f when you cross it) and taking over The United States.
    But Don,t Worry, I,ll personally talk to the rest of Canada and just get them to chill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davegreenlee View Post
    Well, I,m Canadian, and it kind of makes me mad to find out Obama had people getting information about Canadian Diplomats and Government officials.
    O.K. I understand you Americans not being able to sleep at night because Canada is such a volitile and angry Country, I personally apologise for putting your Nation in fear of the 3 Boats the Canadian Navy has and for the threat of us cross country skiing to the border(which for some strange reason increases the temperature by 40 f when you cross it) and taking over The United States.
    But Don,t Worry, I,ll personally talk to the rest of Canada and just get them to chill.
    Speaking for the rest of us Americans, all the ones who aren't suspected of not really being a legal citizen or Muslim, we appreciate our neighbors to the north and don't like it when things that may occur in the covert world of intelligence organizations are blabbed so that it hurts our Canadian friends feelings. My apologies for any discomfort any Canadians have to endure due to WikiLeaks indescretions.

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