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    how ironic

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    It's a neccesary dramatic action needed to save Democratic countries that have become too Socialist. Hopefully the Tea Party attitude will get countries back to workable governments and then a more Libertarian style of governing take over.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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    It means nothing......

    England waited too long.

    Citizens can't protect themselves anymore.

    They have relied on their pension program for way too long.

    And to top it off great losses in the pension system due to.....

    Muslim welfare.

    Keep a eye on CAIR.

    Oh and their NHS waiting period to see a GP is on average 18 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mojo View Post

    Oh and their NHS waiting period to see a GP is on average 18 weeks.

    I would be curious to see your source. Mine has 2 days to see a GP and 18 weeks from seeing a GP to a hospital if you need surgery. My son was able to see a dr. withinin two days when he was in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    I would be curious to see your source. Mine has 2 days to see a GP and 18 weeks from seeing a GP to a hospital if you need surgery. My son was able to see a dr. withinin two days when he was in England.
    Boy.

    I hope you're not REALLY in a lot of pain or REALLY sick.

    I just had hernia surgery and I'm not sure I could have dealt with the pain for 18 months.


    As far as England joining the TEA party movement, they're only a couple hundred years too late, I'd say.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    Boy.

    I hope you're not REALLY in a lot of pain or REALLY sick.

    I just had hernia surgery and I'm not sure I could have dealt with the pain for 18 months.


    As far as England joining the TEA party movement, they're only a couple hundred years too late, I'd say.
    That depends on the surgery, they have it prioritized. I have waited longer for planned surgeries. I have waited 18 weeks to see a specialist. They have better results than we do at a cheaper cost so I wouldn't toot your horn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    That depends on the surgery, they have it prioritized. I have waited longer for planned surgeries. I have waited 18 weeks to see a specialist. They have better results than we do at a cheaper cost so I wouldn't toot your horn.
    So, you wait according to what priorities?

    I'm sure that cash and social status don't figure into the equation at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    I would be curious to see your source. Mine has 2 days to see a GP and 18 weeks from seeing a GP to a hospital if you need surgery. My son was able to see a dr. withinin two days when he was in England.
    http://www.nhs.uk/news/2009/03March/...ngtimesQA.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    So, you wait according to what priorities?

    I'm sure that cash and social status don't figure into the equation at all.

    "So, you wait according to what priorities?" How about life threatening?

    "I'm sure that cash and social status don't figure into the equation at all."

    I believe cash might get you to the front of the line. If you are under NHS you get equal treatment. There is a push for preferential treatment for military families I believe.

    Bottom line they have standards for everybody, they have better results at a lesser cost. We should be learning from them instead of trying to say we are better than them. But that is not the American way is it?

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    Your source backs up my claim and not yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    So, you wait according to what priorities?

    I'm sure that cash and social status don't figure into the equation at all.
    Patients waiting for treatment on a waiting list for special care, are not waiting only because they want to or they demand to be there, but rather, a doctor must have approved to put them on the list in the first place. Thus it is the doctors’ perception of need and benefit from different treatments that is crucial for the decisions to put someone on a waiting list. Different doctors make different choices in practice about which patients to treat at what stage of morbidity. Some doctors may chose to put a patient on the waiting list at an early stage of the disease, while others rather will wait until the disease has progressed.


    Priority for treatment should not be based purely on the nature of a patient's disease and issues about the quality of a patient's life should also be considered. In this context the quality of life relates to an individual's ability to carry out the activities of daily living and to live an independent life.


    A possible threat to equity on waiting lists comes from different kinds of economic interests. It should not be acceptable to buy preference on a waiting list. The offer of bribes to, or their acceptance by, professionals or institutions should not be tolerated. This would undermine the fundamental principle of equity of access. Attention also needs to be given to the activities of employers and third parties as funders of health care. For example employers could have a potential interest in seeking quicker treatment for their employees ahead of people that are not employed for whatever reason or those that are not getting paid for their work. Employers' and third party interests alone should not entitle a patient to priority for admission.
    http://www.coe.int/t/dg3/health/wait...treport_en.asp

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    Check again ....

    Read what they say about the obese population.

    Then convert that to the American obese that live on no exercise fat foods,to provide a mental gratification based on taste alone.

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