What could go wrong?

[timebuilder]

Let me get this straight . . . .

We're going to be "gifted" with a health care
plan we are forced to purchase and
fined if we don't,

Which purportedly covers at least
ten million more people,
without adding a single new doctor,
but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents,

written by a committee whose chairman
says he doesn't understand it,

passed by a Congress that didn't read it but
exempted themselves from it,

and signed by a President who smokes,

with funding administered by a treasury chief who
didn't pay his taxes,

for which we'll be taxed for four years before any
benefits take effect,

by a government which has
already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare,

all to be overseen by a surgeon general
who is obese,

andfinanced by a country that's broke!!!!!

'What the hell could
possibly go wrong?'

[lions_lair]

..now that's good stuff right thar...

[pageyjim]

Let me get this straight . . . .
We're going to be "gifted" with a health care
plan we are forced to purchase and
fined if we don't,
Which purportedly covers at least
ten million more people,
without adding a single new doctor,
but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents,
written by a committee whose chairman
says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that didn't read it but
exempted themselves from it,
and signed by a President who smokes,
with funding administered by a treasury chief who
didn't pay his taxes,
for which we'll be taxed for four years before any
benefits take effect,
by a government which has
already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare,
all to be overseen by a surgeon general
who is obese,
andfinanced by a country that's broke!!!!!
'What the hell could
possibly go wrong?'

Health Reform Bill Summary: The Top 18 Immediate Effects
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...15.html#s75147

White House, Congress, and federal employees are subject to same health care reforms applied to American people
http://mediamatters.org/research/201003250022


The Congressional Budget Office currently estimates a date of 2037 for the end of solvency.
Insolvency is not bankruptcy.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_will_...em_go_bankrupt

The claim of 16,500 new agents stems from a partisan analysis based on guesswork and false assumptions, and compounded by outright misrepresentation.
http://factcheck.org/2010/03/irs-expansion/


More Doctors and Nurses: Effective immediately, the bill authorizes money to fund programs intended to increase the number of doctors, nurses, and public health professionals.
The effects of supply and demand should also work if you believe in capitalism.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2010/03...st-changes.htm

[k-fridge]

Health Reform Bill Summary: The Top 18 Immediate Effects
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...15.html#s75147

Huffington Post? Really?

The first immediate effect was a 20% increase in premiums.

[pageyjim]

Huffington Post? Really?

The first immediate effect was a 20% increase in premiums.

What facts are wrong? It"s not like I cited Fox lol.

I could give you more sources that you can ignore.

[pageyjim]

Huffington Post? Really?

The first immediate effect was a 20% increase in premiums.

How about the Wall St Journal?

2010
Coverage

■Subsidies begin for small businesses to provide coverage to employees.
■Insurance companies barred from denying coverage to children with pre-existing illness.
■Children permitted to stay on their parents' insurance policies until their 26th birthday.
2011
Coverage

■Set up long-term care program under which people pay premiums into system for at least five years and become eligible for support payments if they need assistance in daily living.

[k-fridge]

How about the Wall St Journal?

2010
Coverage

■Subsidies begin for small businesses to provide coverage to employees.
■Insurance companies barred from denying coverage to children with pre-existing illness.
■Children permitted to stay on their parents' insurance policies until their 26th birthday.
2011
Coverage

■Set up long-term care program under which people pay premiums into system for at least five years and become eligible for support payments if they need assistance in daily living.

You're still only telling the part of the story you want us to see.

In balance, Obamacare has done more harm than good and this will likely continue.

[pageyjim]

You're still only telling the part of the story you want us to see.

In balance, Obamacare has done more harm than good and this will likely continue.

I am the only one to supply any facts in this thread. I have shown what was asked for. And the healthcare bill will do more good than you seem to know or acknowledge.

[k-fridge]

I am the only one to supply any facts in this thread. I have shown what was asked for. And the healthcare bill will do more good than you seem to know or acknowledge.

Only the facts that are convenient to the Democrats.

As for the latter; that is your opinion and I'd be willing to bet time will prove you wrong.

[pageyjim]

You're still only telling the part of the story you want us to see.

Maybe you missed it but the OP said "for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect," So I posted what takes effect immediately in direct response.

[enb54]

Why is universal health care such a contentious issue in the USA? There surely is a solution which the most wealthy country in the world can find. Maybe, perhaps, possibly the HMOs have so much influence in Washington that no solution can be found? Not trying to stir the pot, just a comment...

[ga-hvac-tech]

Here are a few things to think about:

Go out to a restaurant... what do you see: Most of the patrons are overweight and not smiling... And we say we are a healthy country?

I think the issue is we have a lot of bad habits in this country (eating too much fatty food, high stress lifestyle, etc), and we expect doctors to fix it with a pill.

When we choose to take personal responsibility for our health... the bill (cost) will go down.

[Mr Bill]

Here are a few things to think about:

Go out to a restaurant... what do you see: Most of the patrons are overweight and not smiling... And we say we are a healthy country?

Funny you said that, I took my grand kids to their favorite Chinese "buffet" restaurant Wednesday night. The majority of the Chinese patrons were using chopsticks to eat with, and small portions on their plates, the Americans were eating with two forks at a time with "HUGE" portions stacked up on their plates. I think my grand kids and I were the only American folks there that weighed under 200 lbs. There was a lady sitting next to us in a booth, that she took up one whole side of the booth, with her two kids were sitting on the other side. I guess the next thing the Government will do is, place scales at the front doors of all restaurants, and you will only be served a portion according to your weight, the heavier you are, the less you can have, the skinnier the more.