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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    That was probably for the Vietnam War but only guessing there. She was arrested several times. She was co-founder of the Catholic Worker in NYC. "Where workers are encouraged to become scholars , and scholars are encouraged to become workers in order that more understanding exist between the two." It is in the Bowery not to far from where the Twin Towers were. They have a newspaper called the Catholic Worker. They feed the poor and have a shelter and do whatever they can. They ask no questions, if you need help they will do what they can. They believe strongly in a persons dignity. People live there in voluntary poverty and serve their fellow man. Most people there are generally anarchists. Not the type of anarchists people usually think of. They are Christian anarchists in that they believe in helping each on a local level. Some are socialists which is really the exact opposite but they get along well. Each Catholic Worker is autonomous and has a different "flavor." As I said everything is done at a local level at the community level. Most are pacifists, all that I have met. I have helped start a couple of worker houses get off the ground several years back. Dorothy Day was a contemporary of Mother Theresa. They were very similar except Mother Theresa was not politically active really. My wife was a nun with Mother Theresa. I can give you more info if you like lol. Well you wanted some info on me that is more than I have told in years lol.


    pagey, I must admit I am beginning to find you very interesting. I am not trying to sling mud or step out of line but I am extremely curious as how you reconcile your liberal beliefs on abortion and other social issues with your obvious respect for human dignity.

    I don't know if you are for or against abortion but from what I read you are pro-choice. Perhaps you have read how Mother Theresa feels about abortion.

    I am just wondering because the Libertarian in me does not like restrctions on freedom or public intrusion into private medical matters between a doctor and a patient. However, I do have a sign in my yard that reads: "Pray and Fast to End Abortion"

    Again, not trying to start a fight, just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonafan View Post
    pagey, I must admit I am beginning to find you very interesting. I am not trying to sling mud or step out of line but I am extremely curious as how you reconcile your liberal beliefs on abortion and other social issues with your obvious respect for human dignity.

    I don't know if you are for or against abortion but from what I read you are pro-choice. Perhaps you have read how Mother Theresa feels about abortion.

    I am just wondering because the Libertarian in me does not like restrctions on freedom or public intrusion into private medical matters between a doctor and a patient. However, I do have a sign in my yard that reads: "Pray and Fast to End Abortion"

    Again, not trying to start a fight, just curious.
    No it is a good question and very well put. I have not stated my beliefs, but I am pro-choice. Simply because I don't want to tell a woman what to do with her body. It is probably the one most divisive issue with "activists" described above. There are a lot of what we call consistant pro-life people that are liberals. I wish there were no abortions. I prefer them to stop from a change of heart and or circumstances. By circumstances I mean that for example under Clinton there were less because of economic conditions and so on. Maybe I am rationalizing but I feel there are so many problems facing us here on Earth that this is less of an issue. Or it is hard enough to deal with the problems that we have in front of us. You can argue when life starts etc. Also I find it difficult to work with people on that side of the issue. If they are active in it that is. I wish groups active in abortion did more after the baby was born. I know there is some work there but not enough. It is probably the only issue that I disagreed with my wife, and it was problematic sometimes. I wrestle with it sometimes and I am prepared to be judged on it if need be. I am not saying I am right but that is how I feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonafan View Post
    pagey, I must admit I am beginning to find you very interesting. I am not trying to sling mud or step out of line but I am extremely curious as how you reconcile your liberal beliefs on abortion and other social issues with your obvious respect for human dignity.

    I don't know if you are for or against abortion but from what I read you are pro-choice. Perhaps you have read how Mother Theresa feels about abortion.

    I am just wondering because the Libertarian in me does not like restrctions on freedom or public intrusion into private medical matters between a doctor and a patient. However, I do have a sign in my yard that reads: "Pray and Fast to End Abortion"

    Again, not trying to start a fight, just curious.
    Looking back one comment seems a little insensitive in my response to your question. I didn't mean for it to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    Looking back one comment seems a little insensitive in my response to your question. I didn't mean for it to be.
    I thought it was a good answer. I didn't gather any insensitivity from it.

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    Well pagey good thing you were in California in the 60's with the grape pickers instead of down South.

    I don't think you could have survived down here with your beliefs back then, heck I might have even been one of your adversaries back in those good ole days.
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Well pagey good thing you were in California in the 60's with the grape pickers instead of down South.

    I don't think you could have survived down here with your beliefs back then, heck I might have even been one of your adversaries back in those good ole days.
    Yeah I think it would have been rough lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrs reb77 View Post
    Health care would be much more affordable if insurance hadn't been allowed the stranglehold they currently enjoy over our system.
    I agree but only government can do something about it and we all know how unpopular is the idea of government controlling profit driven business.

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    Here is my idea how to overhaul the health care system.

    Tell Blue Cross, Atna and rest of insurance companies to pound sand.
    Expend VA administration and change it’s name to PHA (public health administration).
    PHA would be financed by PHA tax paid by every working person, same like Social Security and Medicare are financed. But wait a minute! What am I saying? Wouldn’t this be a socialism? Well, .....yes, but only addition to existing socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    It is a brave little lady. It is a famous photo. I have had it hanging in my house for about 25 years. It is a photo of Dorothy Day.
    Since Beaver's avatar was taken down I felt mine was similar. It was a sign of good faith on my part lol.(Although Sarah P is not really a politician is she?) So I needed a new avatar. It should have been my first one.
    Pagey, are you a female, male, metro sexual or what? Inquiring minds want to know. Your avatar is that of a radical, anarchist, feminist, Marxist protester. Why did you chose a woman? Why not a man?

    I mean you could have say chosen Karl Marx for instance if you were a man and that if I may say so would be less revolting than some radical crazy feminist for an avatar. Since you won't give your picture that is the only thing we can "judge" you by other than your left wing posts here and that my friend is not very flattering.

    Just a word of advice here, how about a least cleaning up your image a little starting with that wimpy disgusting avatar. Thank you, thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    I do not understand all this interest in avatars. It's just a picture. If you don't look at them they will not bother you.

    Do any of you realize that what you condone here, avatar removal, will come back to bite you. Take the boy with the US Flag on his bike. If it were not for the PC police, situations such as it would never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acmanko View Post
    I do not understand all this interest in avatars. It's just a picture. If you don't look at them they will not bother you.

    Do any of you realize that what you condone here, avatar removal, will come back to bite you. Take the boy with the US Flag on his bike. If it were not for the PC police, situations such as it would never happen.
    Come on now ace. I'm not asking for the mods to remove his disgusting avatar I'm just giving him a little "friendly" advice here since he is new and needs some help.

    Remember acefurnancemaker he had an avatar of Hillary and it made everyone puke. Of course he has been banned from a long time ago because of his attacks on other members. Just trying to help him or her out here. No good deed goes unpunished as they say. Hey you need to take another tote there and chill out Thank you, thank you very much.
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    I take then that you are a politcally correct conservative

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Pagey, are you a female, male, metro sexual or what? Inquiring minds want to know. Your avatar is that of a radical, anarchist, feminist, Marxist protester. Why did you chose a woman? Why not a man?

    I mean you could have say chosen Karl Marx for instance if you were a man and that if I may say so would be less revolting than some radical crazy feminist for an avatar. Since you won't give your picture that is the only thing we can "judge" you by other than your left wing posts here and that my friend is not very flattering.

    Just a word of advice here, how about a least cleaning up your image a little starting with that wimpy disgusting avatar. Thank you, thank you very much
    I am of the male species, I don't know if that makes me a man lol. Would it have been better if I chose Gandhi or MLK?

    Why is she Marxist? Is it because she believed and lived the Gospels? Do you think it is wimpy to be a pacifist? To not retaliate when you have been spat upon or struck. I think it is the manly or even Christian thing to be.

    Also I think I have opened up quite a bit about myself. I have stated things I normally wouldn't talk about in public.

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