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    Just listen to this womans horror story for opting out.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJGvs...layer_embedded

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dangling wrangler View Post
    Just listen to this womans horror story for opting out.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJGvs...layer_embedded
    Just let the mainstream media get a-hold of this and do a sting video... it will go viral in seconds and whomever is in charge of TSA probably will be looking for a job...
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    TSA'S side of the incident

    http://blog.tsa.gov/
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    Quote Originally Posted by retired btc View Post
    TSA'S side of the incident

    http://blog.tsa.gov/
    And, what happened after she went out of view?
    I'm sorry, that didn't tell me much of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dangling wrangler View Post
    And, what happened after she went out of view?
    I'm sorry, that didn't tell me much of anything.
    It tells me there is 2 sides of the story and they provided theirs in response to hers.

    What ever people assume to make out of it is entirely up to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the dangling wrangler View Post
    And, what happened after she went out of view?
    I'm sorry, that didn't tell me much of anything.
    Yes, I am quite aware there are two (or more) sides to any story. I also know that management of image and opinion is something organizations are good at. And if anyone thinks the government will not bold-face lie to the public... well get your head out of the sand.

    I have to agree with DW here: With no visual of each person's facial expressions and no audio feed; there is no way to understand what is going on. For all we know, there could have been a plant of drugs or a throw down weapon to cover improper procedure...

    We need to remember that the government is our servant, NOT our rulers.

    It is the responsibility of the government to prove they did not do anything wrong to the satisfaction of the people, NOT just give some arbitrary video which does not really prove anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retired btc View Post
    It tells me there is 2 sides of the story and they provided theirs in response to hers.

    What ever people assume to make out of it is entirely up to them.
    B T, I'm not looking for an argument first off. Let me make that perfectly clear.
    But, that video shows me nothing.Other than a passenger, walking off screen, to who knows where in that airport? I gotta tell ya,I believe the girl.
    Maybe somebody else gets it. Cause I sure don't.


    What can you see, that I can't.

    Again, not trying to argue.
    I'm open minded. Tell me what you see. Perhaps I could change my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dangling wrangler View Post
    And, what happened after she went out of view?
    I'm sorry, that didn't tell me much of anything.
    She is in view on the second camera footage. The first camera shows that the woman (the one in the pony tail) that was handled her was not yelling but trying to talk to her in a calm manner. Not at all as described in her version on the radio audio. It also shows that quite a number of people were put through the body scanner before and after her.

    She sounds like some whiny immature kid that thinks she is more special than the rest of us. The rules do not apply to her. If she does not want to go through the scanner just accept being patted down and go on your way.

    Wonder if there should be some kind of penalty she she should face for making untrue accusations against the people just trying to do their jobs. She said she was handcuffed to a chair. The only thing that I saw other than herself in the chair was the paper towels one of the security women gave to her to wipe her teary eyes.

    The rubber gloves that they put on when they found she was going to be a problem? All of the security people had them on before dealing with her and after dealing with all the other passengers. Seems to be standard procedure for them when being in contact with the public. And where was the twelve police officers the the security called that she said she counted? This girl is living in a fantasy world or she has decided to use her 'experience' for her own gain. Maybe she wanted here ten minutes of fame. Guess she did not count on security cameras recording her and the security staff.

    But of course none of this matters for the people that want someone to blame for our loss of 'freedom'.

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    [QUOTE=ga-hvac-tech;8348931]Yes, I am quite aware there are two (or more) sides to any story. I also know that management of image and opinion is something organizations are good at. And if anyone thinks the government will not bold-face lie to the public... well get your head out of the sand.

    I have to agree with DW here: With no visual of each person's facial expressions and no audio feed; there is no way to understand what is going on. For all we know, there could have been a plant of drugs or a throw down weapon to cover improper procedure...

    We need to remember that the government is our servant, NOT our rulers.

    It is the responsibility of the government to prove they did not do anything wrong to the satisfaction of the people, NOT just give some arbitrary video which does not really prove anything.[/QUOTE

    You guys are a riot lol did you see any cuffs, did you see the massive strike force assembled to take her down and escort her from the airport, I saw no handcuffs and 3 police with 2 TSA agents escorting her out not the 12 officers she states were on hand, but of course we take a radio host word for it cause the big bad goverment cover up's are an ever present danger, I would think they would have better things to cover up, but of course the tape has been altered to reflect their story, geez get a grip on reality here lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    She is in view on the second camera footage. The first camera shows that the woman (the one in the pony tail) that was handled her was not yelling but trying to talk to her in a calm manner. Not at all as described in her version on the radio audio. It also shows that quite a number of people were put through the body scanner before and after her.

    She sounds like some whiny immature kid that thinks she is more special than the rest of us. The rules do not apply to her. If she does not want to go through the scanner just accept being patted down and go on your way.

    Wonder if there should be some kind of penalty she she should face for making untrue accusations against the people just trying to do their jobs. She said she was handcuffed to a chair. The only thing that I saw other than herself in the chair was the paper towels one of the security women gave to her to wipe her teary eyes.

    The rubber gloves that they put on when they found she was going to be a problem? All of the security people had them on before dealing with her and after dealing with all the other passengers. Seems to be standard procedure for them when being in contact with the public. And where was the twelve police officers the the security called that she said she counted? This girl is living in a fantasy world or she has decided to use her 'experience' for her own gain. Maybe she wanted here ten minutes of fame. Guess she did not count on security cameras recording her and the security staff.

    But of course none of this matters for the people that want someone to blame for our loss of 'freedom'.


    Not all the facts are in yet.
    This is gonna be a hot topic.
    As of now, I haven't seen anything to change my mind.
    But, if I do, I'll change it. Just like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    She is in view on the second camera footage. The first camera shows that the woman (the one in the pony tail) that was handled her was not yelling but trying to talk to her in a calm manner. Not at all as described in her version on the radio audio. It also shows that quite a number of people were put through the body scanner before and after her.

    She sounds like some whiny immature kid that thinks she is more special than the rest of us. The rules do not apply to her. If she does not want to go through the scanner just accept being patted down and go on your way.

    Wonder if there should be some kind of penalty she she should face for making untrue accusations against the people just trying to do their jobs. She said she was handcuffed to a chair. The only thing that I saw other than herself in the chair was the paper towels one of the security women gave to her to wipe her teary eyes.

    The rubber gloves that they put on when they found she was going to be a problem? All of the security people had them on before dealing with her and after dealing with all the other passengers. Seems to be standard procedure for them when being in contact with the public. And where was the twelve police officers the the security called that she said she counted? This girl is living in a fantasy world or she has decided to use her 'experience' for her own gain. Maybe she wanted here ten minutes of fame. Guess she did not count on security cameras recording her and the security staff.

    But of course none of this matters for the people that want someone to blame for our loss of 'freedom'.


    Not all the facts are in yet. What happens after the end of that video? I sure don't know. All it would take, is to see where she ended up, to sway me. To me, the video is uncomplete.
    This is gonna be a hot topic.
    As of now, I haven't seen anything to change my mind.
    But, if I do, I'll change it. Just like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acmanko View Post
    Damn Patriot Act is still haunting it's proponents
    Yup. That's what happens when a Conservative administration enacts a law to closely watch foreigners and a Liberal administration perverts it. If I ever happen to travel by air, I will demand that my wife be frisked by a woman and that I be frisked by a woman. (Nope. No typo.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by retired btc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Yes, I am quite aware there are two (or more) sides to any story. I also know that management of image and opinion is something organizations are good at. And if anyone thinks the government will not bold-face lie to the public... well get your head out of the sand.

    I have to agree with DW here: With no visual of each person's facial expressions and no audio feed; there is no way to understand what is going on. For all we know, there could have been a plant of drugs or a throw down weapon to cover improper procedure...

    We need to remember that the government is our servant, NOT our rulers.

    It is the responsibility of the government to prove they did not do anything wrong to the satisfaction of the people, NOT just give some arbitrary video which does not really prove anything.
    You guys are a riot lol did you see any cuffs, did you see the massive strike force assembled to take her down and escort her from the airport, I saw no handcuffs and 3 police with 2 TSA agents escorting her out not the 12 officers she states were on hand, but of course we take a radio host word for it cause the big bad goverment cover up's are an ever present danger, I would think they would have better things to cover up, but of course the tape has been altered to reflect their story, geez get a grip on reality here lol
    How do we know this is actually a tape of the woman making the complaint? The security people could have cleared out the area and re-shot the events with actors playing the part of passengers. They could have found a woman close to the same features of the hard done by woman and outfitted her in the same type of white top and jeans, couple of pigtails for her brown hair. Just re-roll the cameras and let the actors play their part. Could have a new set of footage in the can in half an hour. And nobody would be able to prove the difference.

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