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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    Maybe we need another thread split from the current split thread.

    The five historical books of the New Testament(The four Gospels and Acts) I believe are the most important and are set apart in many ways. They are pretty consistant as to its teaching and central message. And at the same time are in many ways the most ignored by Christians. The message is very clear in black and white terms often and get explained away. While an obscure, unclear or out of context passage gets quoted often and is used to explain something altogether different.

    My interpretation is just what is said in the passage. You quoted Matthew Henry and his explaination is a pretty good one.

    They did not take away others' property, but they were indifferent to it. They did not call it their own; because they had, in affection, forsaken all for Christ, and were expecting to be stripped of all for cleaving to him. No marvel that they were of one heart and soul, when they sat so loose to the wealth of this world. In effect, they had all things common; for there was not any among them who lacked, care was taken for their supply.
    What was your reason for using it as your signature line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixacr View Post
    What was your reason for using it as your signature line?
    I have explained quite a bit. What is your interest? Does it offend you? Have you read Acts recently? Why do you have a gun as an avatar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Sorry for the characterization of you as a atheist. My memory is not that good I do remember you arguing against the beliefs of several Christians in the past and pushed it a bit in my analysis of you.

    However I hardly disagree with you that pagey's avatar which he enjoyed displaying on every post he made was done to point out mainly hypocrisy but more so to attack Christianity. If he wished to point hypocrisy out he could have started a thread on the subject or at least to post his "beliefs" on this.

    He never did but. Based on his past posts and beliefs I feel that this was done so he could attack Christianity and laugh about how he was getting away with it without anyone calling his hand on this.

    Now the cartoon on Muhammad was different in that it basically told the truth about Muhammad in my opinion. He believed in killing non believers if they did not convert or make slaves out of them.

    But Jesus never acted like pagey's cartoon in any way at any time. So there is no historical evidence which he can bring forward to defend his "cartoon". Thank you, thank you very much.
    Glenn, I can not speak for Pagey and why he selected the cartoon for his avatar. All I did was explain the reasoning the creator of the cartoon had for penning it. It can be offensive to Christians that do not understand the significance of the cartoon. On the other hand Christians that do understand the significance of the cartoon can also feel offended by it if they feel it paints Christians in a bad light.

    The same can be said for the Mohamed cartoon. There are those in both religions that would rather stick their head in the sand rather than confront the fact that the cartoons have a grain of truth to them. In the case of the Mohamed cartoon ignoring the message will result in the death of people if Muslims do not heed the message. In the case of the Jesus cartoon, if we take the route some conservatives recommend and remove all socialist programs the government administers, well same result as above, some people will die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    Firstoff, I cannot start a thread.
    Need to get that pro membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    Need to get that pro membership.
    I was able to start a thread before so I assumed it is part of the "punishment." First it was two days then it changed to 9 days. I guess this is part of it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    I have explained quite a bit. What is your interest?
    With the last portion in bold letters, it appears that you think it advocates the concept of communism.

    "Does it offend you?"

    No

    "Have you read Acts recently?"

    Not the entire book

    "Why do you have a gun as an avatar?"

    It symbolizes my support of the Second Amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixacr View Post
    With the last portion in bold letters, it appears that you think it advocates the concept of communism.
    It could all be in bold as far as I am concerned. It supports just what it says. If we are speaking economic systems, I am not sure what a Christian community as described in the Bible has to do with capitalism. Communism didn't come about until the 20th century, socialism until the 19th century and capitalism until the 16th century app. So it is hard to say maybe a mixture or some new theory but I do not see capitalism as having anything to do with Christianity. Of that much I am sure. What are your thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    It could all be in bold as far as I am concerned. It supports just what it says. If we are speaking economic systems, I am not sure what a Christian community as described in the Bible has to do with capitalism. Communism didn't come about until the 20th century, socialism until the 19th century and capitalism until the 16th century app. So it is hard to say maybe a mixture or some new theory but I do not see capitalism as having anything to do with Christianity. Of that much I am sure. What are your thoughts?
    Before capitalism, communism or socialisim there was either Monarchists or Tyrants.

    They believed that they and their cronies deserved everything and everyone else should just subsist untill cannon fodder was needed.

    This is the main danger with the conservative school of thought. Which is trickle down economics or charitable giving to the poor. As for a middle class, well it would not exist under Tory conservatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acmanko View Post
    Before capitalism, communism or socialisim there was either Monarchists or Tyrants.

    They believed that they and their cronies deserved everything and everyone else should just subsist untill cannon fodder was needed.

    This is the main danger with the conservative school of thought. Which is trickle down economics or charitable giving to the poor. As for a middle class, well it would not exist under Tory conservatives.
    Maybe we can look forward to feudalism. The middle class has always been what seperates the US from many countries. The middle class use to be the family farmer then average workers. Mexico has a large economy with many rich people just a small middle class.
    Isn't it interesting that we now have the largest concentration of wealth since 1928.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    It could all be in bold as far as I am concerned. It supports just what it says. If we are speaking economic systems, I am not sure what a Christian community as described in the Bible has to do with capitalism. Communism didn't come about until the 20th century, socialism until the 19th century and capitalism until the 16th century app. So it is hard to say maybe a mixture or some new theory but I do not see capitalism as having anything to do with Christianity. Of that much I am sure. What are your thoughts?
    My thoughts? After numerous posts and using hundreds, if not thousands, of words you have yet to answer the question. I think you would make a dandy politician.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixacr View Post
    My thoughts? After numerous posts and using hundreds, if not thousands, of words you have yet to answer the question. I think you would make a dandy politician.
    What have you said? The premise and it seems some conclusions were yours. I tried to expand on it and have a good conversation. You raised some thought provoking ideas.
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    What thread was this one split off from please....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    What have you said? The premise and it seems some conclusions were yours. I tried to expand on it and have a good conversation. You raised some thought provoking ideas.
    I put forth what I thought was a simple question. I accept that you are not going to give a simple, direct answer.

    It has been interesting though, hasn't it?
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