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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    Read the thread again, I never said I was Muslim. The closest I said to that was I said you can call me a Muslim lover if you wished.
    Well then if you aren't a Muslim but just a Muslim lover, then what are you? Muslim, atheist, agnostic, devil worshiper, communist, Christian hater or all the above, not Christian that is for sure?

    Since you debate Christianity on here so much then I think it is only fair that you tell us. How about coming clean here pagey. Inquiring minds want to know. All the above sounds about right to me. Thank you, thank you very much
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    Nothing is more ironic and hypocritical than a conservative saying he is Christian. Hell everything about conservatism is agaisnt Christian priciples

    Christ said "give up everything and follow me."

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    And to those who say "go to a local community church". Think about these three words

    commune

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    Quote Originally Posted by acmanko View Post
    Nothing is more ironic and hypocritical than a conservative saying he is Christian. Hell everything about conservatism is agaisnt Christian priciples

    Christ said "give up everything and follow me."
    Oh forgive me ace. I forgot and left out one important category and you posting here reminded me of it. Pot smoker. Yes that would make you want to debate with mindless abandonment just about any subject out there. Thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Oh forgive me ace. I forgot and left out one important category and you posting here reminded me of it. Pot smoker. Yes that would make you want to debate with mindless abandonment just about any subject out there. Thank you very much
    Awe shucks Glen. You don't need to be forgiven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Well then if you aren't a Muslim but just a Muslim lover, then what are you? Muslim, atheist, agnostic, devil worshiper, communist, Christian hater or all the above, not Christian that is for sure?

    Since you debate Christianity on here so much then I think it is only fair that you tell us. How about coming clean here pagey. Inquiring minds want to know. All the above sounds about right to me. Thank you, thank you very much
    "not Christian that is for sure"
    Maybe a tree is judged by its fruit. Or maybe Jesus believes His own parable of the two sons. I know many atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus etc that seem to follow the word of Jesus. It seems they may be the socalled "disobedient" sons.
    "War is cruelty,and you cannot refine it." Sherman to the leadership of Atlanta prior to burning the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    "not Christian that is for sure"
    Maybe a tree is judged by its fruit. Or maybe Jesus believes His own parable of the two sons. I know many atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus etc that seem to follow the word of Jesus. It seems they may be the socalled "disobedient" sons.
    Well how about it? The rest of us have ID ourselves why are you so secretive? Are you afraid? Just what is your problem. It is not like you are attacking Islam and are worried about your neck.

    Just be honest for once like everybody else instead of hiding in a dark alley so to speak. Or do we have to think of you as a coward and back stabber. Always knocking someone beliefs (except the Muslims since you claim to love them) but won't say what you believe. Be a man and speak up. Thank you very much.
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Well how about it? The rest of us have ID ourselves why are you so secretive? Are you afraid? Just what is your problem. It is not like you are attacking Islam and are worried about your neck.

    Just be honest for once like everybody else instead of hiding in a dark alley so to speak. Or do we have to think of you as a coward and back stabber. Always knocking someone beliefs (except the Muslims since you claim to love them) but won't say what you believe. Be a man and speak up. Thank you very much.
    Some people on this site are nuts! I will not give my real name to get pro membership etc. My religious beliefs are private at this point. I have defended Jews, Catholics and Muslims on this site. What difference does it make what I am? I still think ideas and words are what count. I bet you would complain if somebody called you a coward or back stabber. Where does the backstabbing comment stem from?
    "War is cruelty,and you cannot refine it." Sherman to the leadership of Atlanta prior to burning the city.

    "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
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    Romney campaign: "We're not going to let our campaign be ruled by fact-checkers,"

    Lindsey Graham: “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    Some people on this site are nuts! I will not give my real name to get pro membership etc. My religious beliefs are private at this point. I have defended Jews, Catholics and Muslims on this site. What difference does it make what I am? I still think ideas and words are what count. I bet you would complain if somebody called you a coward or back stabber. Where does the backstabbing comment stem from?
    Where have I called you those names. Just said that if you attack Christianity with abandon here without any hint to where you are coming from then one might think of you as a coward or a backstabber.

    Well if you blind side me and attack my beliefs without defining who you are or what you believe then that in my opinion is backstabbing. Perhaps you don't see it that way but I do. Now you don't have to give your name or what planet you live on just tell us what you believe since you love to trash the beliefs of others on here. Is that all that hard or dangerous for you. Thank you very much.
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Where have I called you those names. Just said that if you attack Christianity with abandon here without any hint to where you are coming from then one might think of you as a coward or a backstabber.

    Well if you blind side me and attack my beliefs without defining who you are or what you believe then that in my opinion is backstabbing. Perhaps you don't see it that way but I do. Now you don't have to give your name or what planet you live on just tell us what you believe since you love to trash the beliefs of others on here. Is that all that hard or dangerous for you. Thank you very much.
    I have never attacked Christianity on this site. It can easily be argued that many selfproclaimed Christians are unknowingly doing so.
    "War is cruelty,and you cannot refine it." Sherman to the leadership of Atlanta prior to burning the city.

    "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
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    Romney campaign: "We're not going to let our campaign be ruled by fact-checkers,"

    Lindsey Graham: “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    I have never attacked Christianity on this site. It can easily be argued that many selfproclaimed Christians are unknowingly doing so.
    Yes you have indeed in a direct attack on Jesus Christ. I guess I will have to explain it to you again since you have had a convenient memory loss here. You used for your personal avatar a image of Jesus with the following dialog.

    A sick man laying on the street says "Heal me Jesus" Jesus says, "LOL get up you lazy socialist". That was a direct attack on Christianity. Why do you make me point out the obvious again? The mods removed your blasphemous avatar. Something is wrong with you pagey? Thank you, thank you very much.
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Well how about it? The rest of us have ID ourselves why are you so secretive? Are you afraid? Just what is your problem. It is not like you are attacking Islam and are worried about your neck.

    Just be honest for once like everybody else instead of hiding in a dark alley so to speak. Or do we have to think of you as a coward and back stabber. Always knocking someone beliefs (except the Muslims since you claim to love them) but won't say what you believe. Be a man and speak up. Thank you very much.
    Actually I like the suspense in not knowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Yes you have indeed in a direct attack on Jesus Christ. I guess I will have to explain it to you again since you have had a convenient memory loss here. You used for your personal avatar a image of Jesus with the following dialog.

    A sick man laying on the street says "Heal me Jesus" Jesus says, "LOL get up you lazy socialist". That was a direct attack on Christianity. Why do you make me point out the obvious again? The mods removed your blasphemous avatar. Something is wrong with you pagey? Thank you, thank you very much.
    Go back to the "Obammeter" thread and read Printer's explaination. I am still amazed that one was needed and still is apparantly. I'll save you the trouble and copy it here for you. Maybe the mods should read it too.

    Late coming to this thread. Heard a bit on this avatar but I think those that find it offensive miss the message. It is not an attack on Jesus or Christianity but on those that take the opinion that we as a society should not help those that are less fortunate than us. Because Jesus would not utter those words it is actually an attack on those that do utter those words and proudly proclaim themselves as Christians.

    How many here have promoted getting ride of programs to help those in need such as a universal health care system? How many have said to get rid of programs to help those at the lower end of the spectrum that have minimal income and have a problem feeding themselves? Programs to help those to lift themselves out of dire circumstances? Is this what Jesus would do?

    The cartoon of Jesus and the sick man does not hit at Jesus but at those that go against his teachings. Those that would rather call those in need just a bunch of socialists.
    "War is cruelty,and you cannot refine it." Sherman to the leadership of Atlanta prior to burning the city.

    "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
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    Romney campaign: "We're not going to let our campaign be ruled by fact-checkers,"

    Lindsey Graham: “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”

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