Metasys 3

[roper]

Is any one else converting or establishing a new architecure using JCI's new web based product? Woo hoo are we having fun now. I think we must be a test site and would love to talk to any one else installing this product.
We have about 70-80 buildings online. We have our own V-LAN using existing PMI with one M5 workstation. We are in the process of converting to this new product using both Integration engines and NAE's. Anyone else out there?

[davem]

On one site, we've been hired by an ESCO to replace a couple of existing NCU's with NAE's, and we'll be proceeding on this in the next couple of months, so I'll let you know how we progress...
Other than replacing the boiler's NCU I/O with a DX9100, and then some tedious remapping of another NCU's points to an NAE, I don't see much trouble on the horizon (but of course, that will probably turn out to be a rather myopic view of the project...)

Here we go...

[roper]

Are you installing a server? How come they did not use NIE's?

[davem]

As I understand the scope, the new central plant points we need to monitor won't fit on the existing NCU's. So, we need to either purchase an NCM, or retrofit most of the existing points to N2 devices on NAE's. Since we'd like the NAE experience, and since nobody on site understands how to use the existing PMI anyway, the ESCO designing the job built in some money for a new "front-end". It won't involve a new server, simply networked NAE's accessed with a browser.

Given the fact that we aren't a JCI branch, or even an ABCS, but a very JCI-savvy independent contractor that buys Metasys through distribution (at least for now, until JCI changes the rules...), the NAE route is the most direct route for us.

[integrator]

well, I did three (3) projects converting DSC8500, NCM's and non JCI controls (honeywell) to the MSEA system. We used BACnetIP, N2, LON, NIE, and finally modbus.

The only draw back is using the NIE to read in NCM's. You should take the time and replace the NCM's with NAE's (you can get a credit for this). One location will have over 100 buildings working together nicellly.

Integrator

[freddy-b]

As I understand the scope, the new central plant points we need to monitor won't fit on the existing NCU's. So, we need to either purchase an NCM, or retrofit most of the existing points to N2 devices on NAE's. Since we'd like the NAE experience, and since nobody on site understands how to use the existing PMI anyway, the ESCO designing the job built in some money for a new "front-end". It won't involve a new server, simply networked NAE's accessed with a browser.

Given the fact that we aren't a JCI branch, or even an ABCS, but a very JCI-savvy independent contractor that buys Metasys through distribution (at least for now, until JCI changes the rules...), the NAE route is the most direct route for us.

There are much better alternatives then going down this path!

[davem]

Give me a little credit, freddy - somebody dragged this thread up from over three years ago!!!

Of course the FX-40 makes a far superior integration path - but they weren't around before I jumped into the NAE pond (and promptly jumped right out again...)

Gotta love the FX-40...so nice to use...so inexpensive, yet so powerful...

[freddy-b]

Give me a little credit, freddy - somebody dragged this thread up from over three years ago!!!

Of course the FX-40 makes a far superior integration path - but they weren't around before I jumped into the NAE pond (and promptly jumped right out again...)

Gotta love the FX-40...so nice to use...so inexpensive, yet so powerful...

oops.... my bad, I hate it when people drag up old threads.

Ya all those poor customers that got the screws put to em back then.

[uber goober]

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