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  1. #14
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    They have good marketing that makes people in the trade feel they have to have it. Or be left behind.
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    I know the only reason my previous employer had it was to have a check in a column for their listing. Somebody is getting paid...

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    Do I need to have a certan number of posts before I can send private messages? I've done it many times on other forums, but on this forum the option isn't appearing?

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    Don't know..Beenthere will be able to tell you.

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    been there,
    i believe any certification is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    there is hvac excellence and nate of course RSES and many others
    the ua star exam etcccc....

    there is no way for joe homeowner to tell if he is getting a QUALIFIED technician or not.

    if our industry does not get more into certifications then it will just remain the same shade tree industry that it is now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    any guy who can hook up a set of gauges and sell a condensing unit, is HIRED!!!!!!!

    and sent to joe homeowners!!!!!!!!
    I WILL SELL WORK,GENERATE BUSINESS, GO GET NEW CUSTOMERS!
    YOU SHUT THE HELL UP AND QUIT RUNNING YOUR MOUTH!

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    I would vote for RSES.

    But no. Any certification is NOT good.

    Paper test, don't show or prove a skill in the field.
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  8. #21
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    it shows that atleast the guy has some dedication to his craft!!!!!


    i will not argue about how lame nate itself is??
    you will get no arguement from me!!!!!!!!!!!!

    but if a guy coasts through his entire career and get no training or certifications other than that ridiculous epa 608 my dog could pass!
    maybe he is not that dedicated???

    that being said!

    a guy with zero certifications could be the best mechanic in all ot space and time!!!!!!!!!!!1

    how come auto mechanics are all certified through ASE????????????

    we dont seem to have anything like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i think we should have!!!!!!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    I would vote for RSES.

    But no. Any certification is NOT good.

    Paper test, don't show or prove a skill in the field.
    I WILL SELL WORK,GENERATE BUSINESS, GO GET NEW CUSTOMERS!
    YOU SHUT THE HELL UP AND QUIT RUNNING YOUR MOUTH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertek65 View Post
    it shows that atleast the guy has some dedication to his craft!!!!!
    There was a guy on TV a while back who took test for all kinds of jobs and past most of them. They asked him how he did it without knowing anything about the type of work and he said he studied test.

    Many years ago I worked with a guy who taught HVAC, he was a very good teacher ... put him in front of a rooftop unit ... not so good.

    Hence the old saying ... book smart.


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    Quote Originally Posted by supertek65 View Post
    it shows that atleast the guy has some dedication to his craft!!!!!

    ....
    but if a guy coasts through his entire career and get no training or certifications other than that ridiculous epa 608 my dog could pass!
    maybe he is not that dedicated???

    ....
    You paint with a broad brush. I have known a good many people with credentials out the whazoo, including degrees and professional registrations that were functional morons. Their certificates stating otherwise were of little consolation.

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    no argument from me there!!!!!!

    some guys are book smart and some aren't!!!!!

    atleast in my field, mainly chillers, boilers, large splits etccc..

    you have to be both!

    we have to read all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    it is getting very technical!!

    but my point was only!

    if no certifications??
    how do you separate yourself from the shade tree guy??????

    or how would the customer know?????????/


    Quote Originally Posted by vmc1161 View Post
    There was a guy on TV a while back who took test for all kinds of jobs and past most of them. They asked him how he did it without knowing anything about the type of work and he said he studied test.

    Many years ago I worked with a guy who taught HVAC, he was a very good teacher ... put him in front of a rooftop unit ... not so good.

    Hence the old saying ... book smart.


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    again!

    no argument from me!

    i am not saying a nate certified guy is better than a guy who is not!

    i know this!

    the economy is on its way DOWN!!!!!

    i believe it is on a long roll down hill for the next ten years or until we start manufacturing stuff in the US stop outsourcing to india and having everything made in china and more important!

    send back all the illegals who work here and live off our gov dollar and send their entire paycheck home to another country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    i would build up my resume as much as i could, or do whatever you can to separate you from the next guy!!!!!!!!!1

    just saying????????


    Quote Originally Posted by wolfdog View Post
    You paint with a broad brush. I have known a good many people with credentials out the whazoo, including degrees and professional registrations that were functional morons. Their certificates stating otherwise were of little consolation.
    I WILL SELL WORK,GENERATE BUSINESS, GO GET NEW CUSTOMERS!
    YOU SHUT THE HELL UP AND QUIT RUNNING YOUR MOUTH!

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    how come auto mechanics are all certified through ASE????????????

    we dont seem to have anything like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Cause ASE is a smarter more intelligent organization.

    They didn't just market themselves to auto mehs. But didn't polls/surveys in areas to see if people/customers had heard of ASE. And in those areas that few people heard of it. they advertised themselves to the general public, to look for ASE certified mechs.

    NATE just grabs a techs money, and hopes the manufacturers will promote them to the general public.

    ASE grabbed the bull by the horn, and made themselves be known.
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