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    Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

    Evidence Indicates U.S. Military Opened Al-Qaqaa Bunkers, Left Them Unguarded

    Oct. 28, 2004 - The strongest evidence to date indicates that conventional explosives missing from Iraq's Al-Qaqaa installation disappeared after the United States had taken control of Iraq.

    Barrels inside the Al-Qaqaa facility appear on videotape shot by ABC television affiliate KSTP of St. Paul, Minn., which had a crew embedded with the 101st Airborne Division when it passed through Al-Qaqaa on April 18, 2003 -- nine days after Baghdad fell.

    Experts who have studied the images say the barrels on the tape contain the high explosive HMX, and the universal markings on the barrels are clear that these are highly dangerous explosives.

    "I talked to a former inspector who's a colleague of mine, and he confirmed that, indeed, these pictures look just like what he remembers seeing inside those bunkers," said David Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington.

    The barrels were found inside sealed bunkers, which American soldiers are seen on the videotape cutting through. Inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency sealed the bunkers where the explosives were kept just before the war began.

    "The seal's critical," Albright said. "The fact that there's a photo of what looks like an IAEA seal means that what's behind those doors is HMX. They only sealed bunkers that had HMX in them."

    After the bunkers were opened, the 101st was not ordered to secure the facility. A senior officer told ABC News the division would not have had nearly enough soldiers to do so.

    It remains unclear how much HMX was at the facility, but what does seem clear is that the U.S. military opened the bunkers at Al-Qaqaa and left them unguarded. Since then, the material has disappeared

    Pentagon spokesman Larry DiRita said it's not clear what the photos indicate.

    "We know there were other units in the area who acknowledged finding explosives," he said. "Some Explosive Ordnance Destruction units have a recollection that some high explosives in the area were taken out of there."

    DiRita said the Pentagon is trying to contact the units of the 101st Airborne Division that may have been involved in the opening of these bunkers to get a better sense of what happened.


    Image Released
    Late today, the Pentagon released a satellite image of Al-Qaqaa bunkers taken March 17, 2003, that shows the presence of two heavy-lift tractor trailers outside of a bunker. The Pentagon is uncertain about whether the specific bunker where the trucks are located actually contained explosives that are now missing.

    Their intent in releasing the image is to demonstrate that on the same day that the IAEA inspectors left Iraq, Saddam Hussein's regime was in control of the facility, countering the impression that this was a "hermetically sealed" location and showing that access was available to non-U.N. personnel.

    Not released today were images taken March 14, 2003, and March 20, 2003, that show no vehicles on the premises. There also was an image from April 1, 2003, that showed a large number of trucks at the nearby Iskandariyah airfield. Officials acknowledged they have no idea what those trucks were there for.

    It is highly unusual for the Pentagon to release spy satellite imagery. Officials said today's decision was made with the full agreement of the intelligence community and that the White House did not have to approve the release.

    ABC News' Martha Raddatz filed this report for World News Tonight. Luis Martinez contributed to this report.

    Copyright 2004 ABC News Internet Ventures


    This is for all you repugs who can't face the truth. Bush and Co. can't do anything right! My point in posting this is to show how the shrub failed to plan. Gaurding that site is a no brainer. Why weren't our troops ordered to secure the installation? There wasn't enough troops to go around. There wasn't enough troops to go around because the shrub wouldn't listen to his generals and advisors when they told him he needed MORE troops than what he proposed. Bush is unfit to lead and he will be held accountable on Nov. 2!

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    so if you were there you would of done different then why the heck are you still stateside and not in iraq fixing allt he problems and just being a modern day rambo?

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    Originally posted by Edmund Forsthe
    so if you were there you would of done different then why the heck are you still stateside and not in iraq fixing allt he problems and just being a modern day rambo?
    It is not MY job to set policy for the Iraqnam war. It's the PRESIDENTS job. I don't have the answers for the problems and obviously the shrub doesn't either. That is why we need a new president. Not only does the shrub not have the answers, he refuses to acknowledge the problem. It is the presidents responsibility for all the problems we are having and he needs to be held accountable on Nov. 2.

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    if you think the "shrub" messed up; what do you suppose the anti-war protestor will do 'cept screw things up beyond all repair, guaranteed- (too bad those explosives weren't found under your rack)

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    and pray what proop do you have that kerry can do a better job then, rather than just whine abouth it.

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    It's the same sh#t as Iran-contra.We know exactly where that stuff went you can bet your a$$.
    Take your time & do it right!

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    The explosives are being found each time a car bomb goes off or someone with a back pack full of explosives kills a lot of people.

    On November the 2nd you can VOTE for 4 more years of this kind of leadership or you can elect to get America back in the right direction.

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    Originally posted by motorboy1

    Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

    Evidence Indicates U.S. Military Opened Al-Qaqaa Bunkers, Left Them Unguarded

    Oct. 28, 2004 - The strongest evidence to date indicates that conventional explosives missing from Iraq's Al-Qaqaa installation disappeared after the United States had taken control of Iraq.

    Barrels inside the Al-Qaqaa facility appear on videotape shot by ABC television affiliate KSTP of St. Paul, Minn., which had a crew embedded with the 101st Airborne Division when it passed through Al-Qaqaa on April 18, 2003 -- nine days after Baghdad fell.

    Experts who have studied the images say the barrels on the tape contain the high explosive HMX, and the universal markings on the barrels are clear that these are highly dangerous explosives.

    "I talked to a former inspector who's a colleague of mine, and he confirmed that, indeed, these pictures look just like what he remembers seeing inside those bunkers," said David Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington.

    The barrels were found inside sealed bunkers, which American soldiers are seen on the videotape cutting through. Inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency sealed the bunkers where the explosives were kept just before the war began.

    "The seal's critical," Albright said. "The fact that there's a photo of what looks like an IAEA seal means that what's behind those doors is HMX. They only sealed bunkers that had HMX in them."

    After the bunkers were opened, the 101st was not ordered to secure the facility. A senior officer told ABC News the division would not have had nearly enough soldiers to do so.

    It remains unclear how much HMX was at the facility, but what does seem clear is that the U.S. military opened the bunkers at Al-Qaqaa and left them unguarded. Since then, the material has disappeared

    Pentagon spokesman Larry DiRita said it's not clear what the photos indicate.

    "We know there were other units in the area who acknowledged finding explosives," he said. "Some Explosive Ordnance Destruction units have a recollection that some high explosives in the area were taken out of there."

    DiRita said the Pentagon is trying to contact the units of the 101st Airborne Division that may have been involved in the opening of these bunkers to get a better sense of what happened.


    Image Released
    Late today, the Pentagon released a satellite image of Al-Qaqaa bunkers taken March 17, 2003, that shows the presence of two heavy-lift tractor trailers outside of a bunker. The Pentagon is uncertain about whether the specific bunker where the trucks are located actually contained explosives that are now missing.

    Their intent in releasing the image is to demonstrate that on the same day that the IAEA inspectors left Iraq, Saddam Hussein's regime was in control of the facility, countering the impression that this was a "hermetically sealed" location and showing that access was available to non-U.N. personnel.

    Not released today were images taken March 14, 2003, and March 20, 2003, that show no vehicles on the premises. There also was an image from April 1, 2003, that showed a large number of trucks at the nearby Iskandariyah airfield. Officials acknowledged they have no idea what those trucks were there for.

    It is highly unusual for the Pentagon to release spy satellite imagery. Officials said today's decision was made with the full agreement of the intelligence community and that the White House did not have to approve the release.

    ABC News' Martha Raddatz filed this report for World News Tonight. Luis Martinez contributed to this report.

    Copyright 2004 ABC News Internet Ventures


    This is for all you repugs who can't face the truth. Bush and Co. can't do anything right! My point in posting this is to show how the shrub failed to plan. Gaurding that site is a no brainer. Why weren't our troops ordered to secure the installation? There wasn't enough troops to go around. There wasn't enough troops to go around because the shrub wouldn't listen to his generals and advisors when they told him he needed MORE troops than what he proposed. Bush is unfit to lead and he will be held accountable on Nov. 2!
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    O-o-o-o-o-h, so there WERE WMD's.
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    Originally posted by Edmund Forsthe
    and pray what proop do you have that kerry can do a better job then, rather than just whine abouth it.
    This is a very stupid question from one whom I thought was more intelligent. You can't have proof of something that hasn't happened yet. What I do have proof of is the shrubs incompetency. Since I already know that Bush is a COMPLETE FAILURE, my vote will go for Kerry. If and when he screws up as much as the shrub I will call him on it as well. That will never happen though because the shrub has raised the bar on incompetency so high.

    Bush and Co. What an incompetent mess!

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    Originally posted by bootlen
    Originally posted by motorboy1

    Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

    Evidence Indicates U.S. Military Opened Al-Qaqaa Bunkers, Left Them Unguarded

    Oct. 28, 2004 - The strongest evidence to date indicates that conventional explosives missing from Iraq's Al-Qaqaa installation disappeared after the United States had taken control of Iraq.

    Barrels inside the Al-Qaqaa facility appear on videotape shot by ABC television affiliate KSTP of St. Paul, Minn., which had a crew embedded with the 101st Airborne Division when it passed through Al-Qaqaa on April 18, 2003 -- nine days after Baghdad fell.

    Experts who have studied the images say the barrels on the tape contain the high explosive HMX, and the universal markings on the barrels are clear that these are highly dangerous explosives.

    "I talked to a former inspector who's a colleague of mine, and he confirmed that, indeed, these pictures look just like what he remembers seeing inside those bunkers," said David Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington.

    The barrels were found inside sealed bunkers, which American soldiers are seen on the videotape cutting through. Inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency sealed the bunkers where the explosives were kept just before the war began.

    "The seal's critical," Albright said. "The fact that there's a photo of what looks like an IAEA seal means that what's behind those doors is HMX. They only sealed bunkers that had HMX in them."

    After the bunkers were opened, the 101st was not ordered to secure the facility. A senior officer told ABC News the division would not have had nearly enough soldiers to do so.

    It remains unclear how much HMX was at the facility, but what does seem clear is that the U.S. military opened the bunkers at Al-Qaqaa and left them unguarded. Since then, the material has disappeared

    Pentagon spokesman Larry DiRita said it's not clear what the photos indicate.

    "We know there were other units in the area who acknowledged finding explosives," he said. "Some Explosive Ordnance Destruction units have a recollection that some high explosives in the area were taken out of there."

    DiRita said the Pentagon is trying to contact the units of the 101st Airborne Division that may have been involved in the opening of these bunkers to get a better sense of what happened.


    Image Released
    Late today, the Pentagon released a satellite image of Al-Qaqaa bunkers taken March 17, 2003, that shows the presence of two heavy-lift tractor trailers outside of a bunker. The Pentagon is uncertain about whether the specific bunker where the trucks are located actually contained explosives that are now missing.

    Their intent in releasing the image is to demonstrate that on the same day that the IAEA inspectors left Iraq, Saddam Hussein's regime was in control of the facility, countering the impression that this was a "hermetically sealed" location and showing that access was available to non-U.N. personnel.

    Not released today were images taken March 14, 2003, and March 20, 2003, that show no vehicles on the premises. There also was an image from April 1, 2003, that showed a large number of trucks at the nearby Iskandariyah airfield. Officials acknowledged they have no idea what those trucks were there for.

    It is highly unusual for the Pentagon to release spy satellite imagery. Officials said today's decision was made with the full agreement of the intelligence community and that the White House did not have to approve the release.

    ABC News' Martha Raddatz filed this report for World News Tonight. Luis Martinez contributed to this report.

    Copyright 2004 ABC News Internet Ventures


    This is for all you repugs who can't face the truth. Bush and Co. can't do anything right! My point in posting this is to show how the shrub failed to plan. Gaurding that site is a no brainer. Why weren't our troops ordered to secure the installation? There wasn't enough troops to go around. There wasn't enough troops to go around because the shrub wouldn't listen to his generals and advisors when they told him he needed MORE troops than what he proposed. Bush is unfit to lead and he will be held accountable on Nov. 2!
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    O-o-o-o-o-h, so there WERE WMD's.
    Yep, and they were all safely stored and accounted for until the shrub illegaly invaded Iraq.

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    Well, which is it? Were there WMD's in Iraq and the war there was justified or were there no WMD's? I think you are confused.
    No reserve. No retreat. No regrets.

    For those who have fought for it, freedom has a sweetness the protected will never know.

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    Originally posted by bootlen
    Well, which is it? Were there WMD's in Iraq and the war there was justified or were there no WMD's? I think you are confused.
    Yep, and they were all safely stored and accounted for until the shrub illegaly invaded Iraq. I think you have a problem in reading comprehension - try reading it again, slower. Or maybe I'm typing too fast for you.

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    Originally posted by motorboy1
    Originally posted by bootlen
    Well, which is it? Were there WMD's in Iraq and the war there was justified or were there no WMD's? I think you are confused.
    Yep, and they were all safely stored and accounted for until the shrub illegaly invaded Iraq. I think you have a problem in reading comprehension - try reading it again, slower. Or maybe I'm typing too fast for you.
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    Just trying to confirm your perspective. We already knew there were WMD's in Iraq. Just can't figure out why all the dems/libs and the U.N. is now saying they were not.

    But the problem with your perspective is that the troops who first went into the Al Qaaqaa arsenal after the invasion began are saying that the only weapons there were small arms, conventionals...RPG's, and the like. WMD's were already gone.

    So which is true...what the W hating journalists say or what the troops who were there say?

    Do you want the truth to come out or do you just want W replaced?

    It's obvious from your post that you don't give a rip about truth.
    No reserve. No retreat. No regrets.

    For those who have fought for it, freedom has a sweetness the protected will never know.

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