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    Quote Originally Posted by Diceman View Post
    I couldn't agree more. Even the repubs are afraid of Palin running for office. They know she will lose badly and take votes away from them.
    Which republicans are "afraid" of Palin running?

    I'll wait right here.
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    So, far, no one has had the goods to answer my questions....

    ..could it be their statements are BS?



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    Question Where's the beef?

    Whether its people on this forum or Al Sharpton last night on Geraldo, I'm still waiting on somebody--anybody to pick specific quotes from Glenn Beck and tell me what is wrong with it or what you don't like about it.

    If you listened yesterday or most any day to his shows, you would come to know just how deeply rooted our Constitution is in the belief of God and that HE is the single source of our inalienable rights and certainly NOT the government. The Constitution was written not to declare our rights within government but what government's rights are with respect to our lives and our rights given to us by, wait for it,.........God!

    Tell me what part of restoring honor is bad. Tell me what part of standing with people of all colors is bad. Tell me what part of encourgaging people to educate themselves and challenge with boldess everything, including what Glenn himself says. You'll never hear that from a Progressive.

    Last night Al Sharpton made it very clear his movement is no longer about civil rights but Marxism. He stated openly he feels Glenn Beck is for States Rights, which Sharpton feels is the antithesis of civil rights. Al obviously has not heard Beck or read the Constitution, much less any other writings by our founding fathers. No, Al makes it clear that instead of civil rights as defined by Dr. King's "I have a dream" speech, it has morphed into a new form of slavery by the Progressives based upon Marxist fascism. Without this, Sharpton would be on the unemployment lines standing next to Jesse Jackson and Louis Farakhan. It is THEY who suppress the black people much in the same way as it once was before civil rights. Watch the movie, "The Heat of the Night" with Sidney Poitier and check out the scene at the rich planter's house when he compares blacks to little children unable to function on their own. This is exactly the same crap being spewed by our career politicians, not to help the blacks but to enslave them by smashing their dreams and ability to believe that they have the God given power to do whatever they want to WITHOUT GOVERNMENT or anybody else. The last century is a testament to that truth. The only thing holding down blacks now are the laws that tell them they cannot succeed without government, making them slaves to the politicians who write those laws. Beck and most of the country believe the opposite: that ANYONE can do or be whatever they want to INSPITE of government interference.

    It's a simple question of belief in one's self over the slavery of government and those fascist who seek to enslave you for their personal gain. That, is the crossroads America faces today. I think yesterday signaled the victory of the civil rights movement. We have achived Dr. King's dream inspite of government and those who seek to enslave not just blacks but all people. What you are seeing is a new movement, not unlike the civil rights movement, only this is human rights of the people over government and the belief in the individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hearthman View Post
    Whether its people on this forum or Al Sharpton last night on Geraldo, I'm still waiting on somebody--anybody to pick specific quotes from Glenn Beck and tell me what is wrong with it or what you don't like about it.

    If you listened yesterday or most any day to his shows, you would come to know just how deeply rooted our Constitution is in the belief of God and that HE is the single source of our inalienable rights and certainly NOT the government. The Constitution was written not to declare our rights within government but what government's rights are with respect to our lives and our rights given to us by, wait for it,.........God!

    Tell me what part of restoring honor is bad. Tell me what part of standing with people of all colors is bad. Tell me what part of encourgaging people to educate themselves and challenge with boldess everything, including what Glenn himself says. You'll never hear that from a Progressive.

    Last night Al Sharpton made it very clear his movement is no longer about civil rights but Marxism. He stated openly he feels Glenn Beck is for States Rights, which Sharpton feels is the antithesis of civil rights. Al obviously has not heard Beck or read the Constitution, much less any other writings by our founding fathers. No, Al makes it clear that instead of civil rights as defined by Dr. King's "I have a dream" speech, it has morphed into a new form of slavery by the Progressives based upon Marxist fascism. Without this, Sharpton would be on the unemployment lines standing next to Jesse Jackson and Louis Farakhan. It is THEY who suppress the black people much in the same way as it once was before civil rights. Watch the movie, "The Heat of the Night" with Sidney Poitier and check out the scene at the rich planter's house when he compares blacks to little children unable to function on their own. This is exactly the same crap being spewed by our career politicians, not to help the blacks but to enslave them by smashing their dreams and ability to believe that they have the God given power to do whatever they want to WITHOUT GOVERNMENT or anybody else. The last century is a testament to that truth. The only thing holding down blacks now are the laws that tell them they cannot succeed without government, making them slaves to the politicians who write those laws. Beck and most of the country believe the opposite: that ANYONE can do or be whatever they want to INSPITE of government interference.

    It's a simple question of belief in one's self over the slavery of government and those fascist who seek to enslave you for their personal gain. That, is the crossroads America faces today. I think yesterday signaled the victory of the civil rights movement. We have achived Dr. King's dream inspite of government and those who seek to enslave not just blacks but all people. What you are seeing is a new movement, not unlike the civil rights movement, only this is human rights of the people over government and the belief in the individual.
    Amen!

    Sharpton et al are in the race business, and keeping black folks under their control, via victimhood and wealth redistribution schemes, is a plan for the failure of black children and a guarantee of the self-importance and continuous re-election of the so called "black leaders."

    If Dr. King's dream is to be realized, you can't have "black leaders," or "white leaders," but only leaders of the American people.
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    I watched a little of Al Sharpton on C-SPAN. They dropped the N word a few times. Turned a lady's microphone off in the middle of speech because she was talking hate.
    I bet King was rolling in his grave. You dont drop the N word at a rally like that.

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    Watch out Timebuilder is fired up! LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Which republicans are "afraid" of Palin running?

    I'll wait right here.
    I am, of course I'm independent now-Go Constitutional party-all Palin is is Obama in a dress with a different party.
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    I like Beck...for the exception of his christian rants. I think a lot of what he proclaims is supported by facts and history.

    But there will always be those fools out there that cant accept the truth because it doesnt jive with the liberal disease they have and their srewed up moral values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey791 View Post
    I am, of course I'm independent now-Go Constitutional party-all Palin is is Obama in a dress with a different party.
    I'm not so "fired up" as I am weary of unsubstantiated BS.

    Now, to Joey:

    Please list for me any similarities between the statements, fundamental beliefs based on positions and speeches, or anything else you can mention that shows any similarity between Palin and her political/social/economic values and those of President Obama.

    Take as much time as you want. I want to hear your reasoned opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    I like Beck...for the exception of his christian rants. I think a lot of what he proclaims is supported by facts and history.

    But there will always be those fools out there that cant accept the truth because it doesn't jive with the liberal disease they have and their srewed up moral values.
    You dont like when he talks about God? Thats the best part. How he ties it all together. No one else does that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinpadalino View Post
    You dont like when he talks about God? Thats the best part. How he ties it all together. No one else does that.
    While Americans are not generally "stupid," many of us are indeed "ignorant" of the nature of the beliefs of our Founders, and why they believed that faith was an important part of the forming and the continued nurturing of our nation.

    The Founders had a very holistic set of beliefs of the intertwined nature of faith and the ability of a representative republic to prosper. This is why it is important for supreme court justices to take the "originalist" position, as their job is not to change the foundation of America, but to preserve it. When it is to be changed in some substantive way, the Founders opined that it was for the legislature to change law, and not the judiciary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    While Americans are not generally "stupid," many of us are indeed "ignorant" of the nature of the beliefs of our Founders, and why they believed that faith was an important part of the forming and the continued nurturing of our nation.

    The Founders had a very holistic set of beliefs of the intertwined nature of faith and the ability of a representative republic to prosper. This is why it is important for supreme court justices to take the "originalist" position, as their job is not to change the foundation of America, but to preserve it. When it is to be changed in some substantive way, the Founders opined that it was for the legislature to change law, and not the judiciary.
    Other than establishing it, Article III of the U.S. Constitution spells out neither the specific duties, powers nor organization of the Supreme Court.

    "the judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish."

    Instead, the Constitution left it to Congress and to the Justices of the Court itself to develop the authorities and operations of the entire Judicial Branch of government.

    As far as "faith" since God is not mentioned in the Constitution it is also clear what the founders intention was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pageyjim View Post
    Other than establishing it, Article III of the U.S. Constitution spells out neither the specific duties, powers nor organization of the Supreme Court.

    "the judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish."

    Instead, the Constitution left it to Congress and to the Justices of the Court itself to develop the authorities and operations of the entire Judicial Branch of government.

    As far as "faith" since God is not mentioned in the Constitution it is also clear what the founders intention was.
    You have argued against your own point.

    "The judicial power of the United States shall be vested in one Supreme Court."

    That's JUDICIAL power, not the power to legislate from the bench. The judiciary has given that power to themselves, unchecked by the other two branches of government. Clearly, the powers for government, including the courts, are granted by the people, and the mechanism for that is the legislature. Courts cannot grant themselves additional authority. To do so is tyranny.

    As for the mention of "God," His worship was seen as so important that "the free exercise of religion," even by public officials and even in public places, that it is protected in Article One.

    As for the beliefs of the founders, you must only read a few of their writings to discover what they believed. In fact, most importantly to our nation, they believed that we "are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights." Everything else flows from that singular idea.

    In fact, the idea that these rights come from God, and are not simply granted by a beneficent government, is central to the foundation of the United States.
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