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    Origin unknown but on point.

    I don't know war.

    I'm not worthy to question John Kerry's war record. Because I don't have one.

    I spent the Vietnam War in elementary school. And the four years I was in the Army were all behind a desk. My fort was unofficially known as "Uncle Ben's Rest Home."

    So I don't know anything about war.

    Though I do know a little bit about men who've been to war. I've been around plenty of those.

    Like my step-father.

    He got bunged up pretty bad in France. I know that because I saw him in a swimming suit once.

    But he never talked about it.

    Not once.

    If you asked him about the war he'd tell hilarious stories about basic training, or where the guys he served with were from, or how fun it was learning to fly the gliders, or the time they stole the ambulance to go into town and get drunk in France, or a few of the phrases in German he learned. But he'd never actually talk about the war.

    Unless he was really drunk.

    In which case he still wouldn't talk about it. He'd cry about it. He'd put his head in his arms in the wee hours of the morning and sob to himself about how the men around him were broken and torn when the gliders crash landed into the French countryside.

    But that was only once or twice, and that was never about him.

    And the little box of medals at the bottom of his footlocker never came out.

    It was kind of the same way at the Legion and the VFW. Every day he'd check in at both places, to sign the book and to have a beer, and I would tag along. All those men had been in the service, and most had been in combat, but I never heard a war story.

    Lots of Army stories, and Navy stories, sure. About guys they knew and leaves they were on and officers they messed with But nothing about the war.

    It was the same way in the Army.

    In my day, it seemed like everybody above staff sergeant or captain had been in Vietnam. I went in 10 years after the war ended but the guys on the second half of their careers had all gone.

    You could tell when they wore their dress uniforms.

    But that was the only time.

    Men didn't talk about what they'd done in the war. They didn't boast of their accomplishments. They didn't brag about their medals. But if you chanced to see them in their dress uniforms, with the rows of service ribbons, you could read their history there, you could see that those who'd done the most spoke of it the least.

    Like one of our drill sergeants in basic training.

    Buffing the floor in his office one day we saw the service ribbons pinned to his Class A uniform on the coat rack. Comparing them to the poster in the company day room we learned he'd gotten the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart.

    We asked about them and he made us do push-ups for being nosey.

    The night before graduation, when he welcomed us as fellow soldiers, we asked him again, we almost pestered him. Finally he relented and gave us two sentences: "I was in a war. I got hurt."

    And that's all he'd say

    Kind of like a man I know, who received the Medal of Honor. One night he stood in a long line to shake hands with Colin Powell. The man, because of the nature of the event, wore his medal around his neck

    As he came to Colin Powell the man said, "General, it's an honor to meet you."

    And Colin Powell responded, "No, sir - it's an honor to meet you."

    Anyway, I know this man, and he's often asked to tell his story, of how he earned the Medal of Honor. And he never does. Oh, he answers, and he talks, and he inspires, and he talks about the war.

    But he neglects the part about the lives he saved and the courage he showed, and instead talks about a young Vietnamese man who helped him to safety when his legs were too shot through to hold him anymore.

    I don't know anything about war.

    But I do know a little bit about men who've gone to war.

    And none of them act the way John Kerry does.

    None of them brag about, boast of, talk about or otherwise try to benefit from their service. They don't prostitute their time in uniform for personal gain and ambition.

    They all modestly and insistently say that they "didn't do anything." They minimize their contributions and put them in the context of the similarly courageous and noble service provided by their comrades.

    A true hero doesn't boast.

    In fact, he kind of keeps his deeds to himself. Which is what makes John Kerry so different. Which is what makes John Kerry so unbelievable.

    I don't know war.

    But I do know war heroes.

    And he's not one of them.

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    Decent post WM...............

    ........ VA hospitals are where many heros can be found also.
    There demeanor, the same- happy to be alive still and just as happy to be living in a country where freedom is as important as life itself.
    How anyone who wants to be Commander in Chief could say the things Kerry has said in regards to our servicemen and their service is schocking, to say the least.
    The DNC would have been better off to have chosen any of the other candidates....... too late now.
    Thanks for the post WoodsMech.

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    Yep. really a choice to be made. Kerry talking about a war he was in while the present Commander-in-Chief campaigned for a friends Senate election in Alabama and maintained an excellent service to our country with unblemished attendance in the National Gaurd. Anyone who can multi-task between the importance of getting a friend elected and dodging bullets in Lower Alabama should be a shoe in.

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    Originally posted by acmanko
    Yep. really a choice to be made. Kerry talking about a war he was in while the present Commander-in-Chief campaigned for a friends Senate election in Alabama and maintained an excellent service to our country with unblemished attendance in the National Gaurd. Anyone who can multi-task between the importance of getting a friend elected and dodging bullets in Lower Alabama should be a shoe in.
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    John Kerry is an out-n-out liar. AC, would you hire a known liar rather than someone who is honest to work for you? (This is not rhetorical...I expect an answer.)

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    Thanks woods. The truth has been spoken. How has the general public forgoten ??? How can the images of 9-11 not be seared into our brains? I just don't get it. there is a true choice to be made. Either elect a man with a vision( go kill the B@stards) Or let the inpotent un do it. I will refrain talking abot tax policy. acmanko just does not understand....
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    Originally posted by bootlen
    Originally posted by acmanko
    Yep. really a choice to be made. Kerry talking about a war he was in while the present Commander-in-Chief campaigned for a friends Senate election in Alabama and maintained an excellent service to our country with unblemished attendance in the National Gaurd. Anyone who can multi-task between the importance of getting a friend elected and dodging bullets in Lower Alabama should be a shoe in.
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    John Kerry is an out-n-out liar. AC, would you hire a known liar rather than someone who is honest to work for you? (This is not rhetorical...I expect an answer.)

    Yes- no;No -yes, can't seem to make up my mind, Bush or Kerry; Kerry or Bush, both lie out of their eyeteeth, the question is -4 more years of the same lie or 4 years of new lies

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    Originally posted by acmanko
    Yep. really a choice to be made. Kerry talking about a war he was in while the present Commander-in-Chief campaigned for a friends Senate election in Alabama and maintained an excellent service to our country with unblemished attendance in the National Gaurd. Anyone who can multi-task between the importance of getting a friend elected and dodging bullets in Lower Alabama should be a shoe in.

    Try to stay on subject, Kerry polishes his 4 month tour because that's all he has, 4 months in. Numerous soldiers were shot and refused to return state side, Kerry returned with a paper cut, that's not honor.
    Do you know how many soldiers tried to get 3 tours in?
    Only being told no, they must return home, that's honor.

    And this is also happening in Iraq, you don't abandon your freinds, they don't fight for thier country, they fight and die for thier friends. These men are the bravest group of guys you'll ever have the pleasure to know. Don't even try to include a guy like Kerry in this group.

    You have abslolutly no idea what you talking about, don't try to pass opinion until you have experienced what true friendship really is. Keep this bravado Kerry sh*t to yourself.

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    Whats sad is Bush couldn't find time for two weeks out of the year. You make a choice Veteran of Foriegn war or Inept NG flyboy

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    Originally posted by acmanko
    Whats sad is Bush couldn't find time for two weeks out of the year. You make a choice Veteran of Foriegn war or Inept NG flyboy
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    What is really sad is you're posting stuff here that proves you are an idiot. It is obvious you know nothing of the NG rules/regs and you're making like you do. It is obvious you know nothing of Viet Nam and you're making like you do. It's obvious you know nothing of the military and you're making like you do.

    I hope the same can't be said of your HVAC business. You'll give the industry a bad name.
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    See that's the main difference , you are a small, impish bussiness man while I'm just a employed member of the middleclass, you my friend are afraid of Kerry making you pay taxes. I am afraid that I'll have to pay them regardless, always have , always will. Since You can't even get a web site to work I take it you know nothing of VietNam or the NG either.

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    Originally posted by acmanko
    Whats sad is Bush couldn't find time for two weeks out of the year. You make a choice Veteran of Foriegn war or Inept NG flyboy

    Ask the VFW what they think of your boy, sissy, liar, treasoner comes to mind. Majority would rather see Kerry immigrate to France on a life preserver.

    Don't minimize the abiltiy to fly combat aircraft, the process is grueling and many don't muster the grade, learn to drive a boat, see the difference.

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    Originally posted by acmanko
    See that's the main difference , you are a small, impish bussiness man while I'm just a employed member of the middleclass, you my friend are afraid of Kerry making you pay taxes. I am afraid that I'll have to pay them regardless, always have , always will. Since You can't even get a web site to work I take it you know nothing of VietNam or the NG either.
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    There you go proving my point again. I'm just a little ol' "employed member of the middle class" as well. You're reading things that are not there.

    Why would I need a "web site to work"? I'm having too much fun peeling your layers back.
    No reserve. No retreat. No regrets.

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    But I got thick skin and a hard head.

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