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    Other companies in town were cheaper, as they run linesets, we only run ACR Hard drawn, depending on circumstances.



    From another angle. small mezzanine above the entrance door to Hotel.



    Basement view... can only see two of the three furns. Customer supplied equip. I just made it work.



    Tight spots are my specialty...
    Teach the apprentices right... and learn from their questions and ideas.

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    Oops... sorry, new at picture posting... this was the 'tight fittin' pic...
    Teach the apprentices right... and learn from their questions and ideas.

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    Good work ricm.....
    "And remember my sentimental friend......that a heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others" - Wizard of Oz.

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    I am curious, why copper for the condensate line instead of PVC?

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    Originally posted by ct_hvac_tech
    I am curious, why copper for the condensate line instead of PVC?
    i, too am curious...also, no clean out tee, or is it easily accessible once the coils' panel is removed?

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    Hmm Geeze!!!

    Very nice looking job. The guy used a real drain and its getting questioned as to why no pvc. So what if no cleanout tee. When and if plugs up sweat in a union. Probably one of the better looking piping jobs posted on here IMHO.
    Your poor planning does not constitute an emergency on my part!!!!

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    Thanks for thoughts guys... This job was spec'd... and they were specific with the drains. Abs is right, when we go and service this equipment, we'll let them know that we need better access to the drains... but in truth, it's not rocket science. Codes in Canada seem a bit different than those south of the Border. Actually, they seem significantly different from State to State... and for the most part... the differ here too from Province to Province.

    Often in Residential... we pipe the drains in 3/4" Pex. Traps aren't code in the Res. installs. But I've been putting them in.

    We all know you have to install anything with all HVAC principals considered. Airflow, drainage, Super heat, Sub cooling, etc... but also... neatness counts.

    My kindergarten teacher in the early sixties told me. "You must color within the lines..." When I asked her why... She said, with a wink:... "Why, to impress your kindergarten teacher, ofcourse!" She was a foxy lady with a short skirt and Go-go boots. WE are STILL impressed! So I still color within the lines during installs.
    Teach the apprentices right... and learn from their questions and ideas.

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    Looks good all around. I,too would like to see PVC for drains. As for clean-outs, use a shop vac at the end of the drain! I use my handy 1X1 shop vac all the time, winter to clean furnaces, summer to suck out drain lines.
    R2B4BTU

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    That's sure beautiful pipin' on the roof. Around here, there would be such a tangled mess of copper you couldn't walk around the units to service them!

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    Owner Supplied Equipment???

    Good looking work, but just curious why owner supplied equipment. I keep hearing people trying to convince me that Carrier only sells equipment to its dealers.

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    Nice piping job. That's the way refrigeration piping should look.

    Look at the cost of a line set and then look at the cost of the ACR that you ACTUAllY use. You will be surprised.
    Especially if you factor in the "oops I kinked the big black one."

    I was wondering where the liquid line driers are located on this job?

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    Re: Owner Supplied Equipment???

    Originally posted by mr big
    Good looking work, but just curious why owner supplied equipment. I keep hearing people trying to convince me that Carrier only sells equipment to its dealers.
    Where did you hear that crock? Carrier completely destroyed any credibiliy that they once had in their dealer network.

    Somewhere on this site is a picture of me ripping the Carrier Oval off of my building.

    I know Dice, I need to go to an anger management course.

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    Carrier

    I know, & you know Benncool, but several posts here lately have tried to say that Carrier will only sell to its dealers. I know that while Carrier upper management will tell their dealers to their faces that they only want to sell to them; they are plotting behind close doors to find other routes of distribution to increase market share. At the same time they tell their dealers that they want to increase their business only from their existing base of dealers; they instruct & demand their salespeople to call on & set up new dealers on a weekly basis. Don't get me wrong, other manufacturers are doing the same thing, but it bugs me when someone says something & does the exact opposite. Sounds a lot like politicians, doesn't it.

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