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    Bush Team Reversing Wilderness Act's 40-Year Success
    Forty years ago today, President Lyndon Johnson enacted one of the most forward-looking environmental laws in human history. By signing the 1964 Wilderness Act and creating the National Wilderness Preservation System, President Johnson endorsed a uniquely American philosophy: America's wild lands, untrammeled by industry or machinery -- yet open to the enjoyment of all citizens -- possess special values that merit permanent protection for their own sake.
    The decision to preserve wild lands was without precedent anywhere in the world. It symbolized Americans' deep pride in our greatest national asset -- our public lands. The act also inspired an extended period of reflection among the nation's historians, who saw the good in a people who collectively could act beyond the immediate desires of the present and protect something for those who came after them:
    Sadly, with the arrival of the Bush Administration, the nation's remaining wild lands are instead now targeted for development by the oil, gas, timber and mining industries. Interior Secretary Gale Norton cut her teeth learning legal tricks from her infamous predecessor and mentor, Reagan Interior Secretary James Watt -- a man who actually advocated selling off our National Parks.
    Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a life-long oil and gas man, headed a methane company that is aggressively fighting wilderness designation in the Rockies. Mark Rey, Undersecretary of Agriculture for Environment and Natural Resources, made his living as a top lobbyist for the timber industry before gaining oversight of the National Forest system.
    Similarly, this summer, Undersecretary Rey killed the Clinton-era "Roadless Area Conservation Rule," which had allowed the Forest Service to inventory and preserve wild forest lands while they await a decision from Congress over formal Wilderness designation.
    The roadless rule was the result of thousands of hours of public hearings. It generated hundreds of thousands of comments in favor of its enactment -- the most popular environmental decision of the last decade. Rey's reversal opened millions of acres of the public's forests to timber cutting, mining, and oil and gas drilling. Indeed, just last week, the Forest Service issued oil and gas leases in an inventoried roadless area south of Jackson Hole, Wyoming -- Vice President Cheney's home away from home.
    While the wilderness characteristics President Bush aims to sacrifice are worthy of preservation on their own merits, there is more at stake. Many cities in the West increasingly rely on the clean water that flows from Wilderness Areas; some of the cleanest water in the nation originates there. Similarly, outdoor recreation, hunting, fishing and wildlife viewing are multi-billion dollar industries that depend primarily on protected public lands. These industries have spoken out against Bush's policies, but their pleas have fallen on deaf ears. Outdoorsmen and Hunter voting for Bush will soon have to hunt in their own backyard, as everything else will be owned by the oil and gas industry and off limits.



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    If you ever decide to leave HVAC, you can go to work writing for MAD magazine.
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    Outdoorsmen and Hunter voting for Bush will soon have to hunt in their own backyard, as everything else will be owned by the oil and gas industry and off limits.


    OH MY GOD !! You have really lost it....You can get help at a psyco ward some place!! Lumber jacks and residential building is doing more damage than the oil buisness...But I don't hear you *****in about that so lets just jump on the oil co's....Get a flippin grip!!

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    Biggest damage to our environment is probably cars or lawn mowers.

    #2 is probably lawn fertilizer.

    Unless you live within 100 miles of a refinery, oil companies probably do very little to damage your backyard. You probably do more damage with the gas you spill filling the lawn mower.

    There is a happy balance that can be reached.
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    Originally posted by bootlen
    If you ever decide to leave HVAC, you can go to work writing for MAD magazine.
    Are they hiring? Good thing Bush isn't getting reelected as it would be the only job left in America.

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    Originally posted by johnl45
    Originally posted by bootlen
    If you ever decide to leave HVAC, you can go to work writing for MAD magazine.
    Are they hiring? Good thing Bush isn't getting reelected as it would be the only job left in America.
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    Inaccurate, therefore irrelevant...as usual.
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    bush is just the tip of the iceberg i'm sure if you dig deeper you will find other guilty parties. local example pesticide spraying to kill weeds on the hiways, lawn control co's using weedkillers and pertilizers the list could go on all you see is whats printed on the pages of the papers. its corporate america with their large sums of money that drives the attact on the envirorment all for profit gains.

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    Originally posted by bootlen
    Originally posted by johnl45
    Originally posted by bootlen
    If you ever decide to leave HVAC, you can go to work writing for MAD magazine.
    Are they hiring? Good thing Bush isn't getting reelected as it would be the only job left in America.
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    Inaccurate, therefore irrelevant...as usual.
    If its not carrying a gun its irrelevant too the right-wing gun nuts.

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    john...

    ...if you live up north, every winter they spray hundreds of thousands of gallons of salt water on the roads to get the ice off. That water runs off the road and into the soil, and also into some navigable waterways. An oil company that loses a few gallons is subject to severe fines from EPA. Hmmm...let's see, the oil is refined into gas, and the gas goes into the car, and the car is driven on the highway, and the highway gets icy, and we get mad if the ice isn't removed, and they remove it with a substance that on one hand is controlled, but on another hand isn't....

    There is a balance, as was mentioned above.

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    Don't waste your time player!!! Johnnie's brain dead!!

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    Re: john...

    Originally posted by player89
    An oil company that loses a few gallons is subject to severe fines from EPA.
    Sorry, but its a lot more than a few gallons. The threshold is somewhere near 1300 gallons not a few as you stated. Oil is a serious pollutant and the polluters be dealt with accordingly. Alaska is still feeling the effects of Exxon Valdez spill from 1989.

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    Do you really believe that the environmentalist are going to be a factor in this election? you need to let some air out of your ballon a come back down for awhile.
    Even though the issue is important it is not at the top of the list at this time.

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