For the record list your service

[classical]

For the record list what branch MOS and time in service. Lets just see has served their time and who has not.

Care to make bets on who hasn't done their duty?

Mine US Army Apr. 1975 to Apr 1979 Active. Lance Missiles and Chemical Biological Warfare. Three years in Germany finished up at Fort Sill OK.
Two years reserve just couldn't take being in the peacetime army under Carter.

[Green Mountain]

Specialist 4th class, US Army. 1963-66

MOS 51L20 Refrigeration Equipment Repair

18 months in Vietman. 6 months in NYC. The remainder in Okinawa.

[hack hater]

Spc-4 January '88-january '90. Basic trng Fort Knox,AIT at Aberdeen MD,active duty Schwabach Germany 63Y-track vehicle mechanic.Recalled from inactive reserve for Gulf War in Jan '91 to May '91

[bootlen]

USAF, June '67 - April '75 AFSC 46270 SI AC-130A 1968-1971; AFSC 42570 SI KC-135A 1971-1975.

42MMS, 408 MMS, 16 SOS, 474 TFW, 917 ARS

Lackland-Lowery-Dyess-Eglin-Ubon-Clark-Castle-Dyess-Kadena-CCK-Guam-Clark-Grand Forks-Torrejon, about 500 hours over the Trail in Laos and countless points in between.

Total of 27 months in SEA.

[Edited by bootlen on 08-30-2004 at 04:40 PM]

[ozone drone]

USAF Aug 68 - Mar 74 SSgt
Amarillo,Tx Ent/Peterson/ USAFA Colorado, Sheppard Tx
George AFB Ca. 81150 Security Police
54550 Ref/AC Specialist

[king nothing]

USAF-Sgt. Sep. 88 to Sep. 92

Lackland AFB, San Antonio, Tx.
Fort Dix, N.J.
F.E. Warren AFB Cheyenne, Wy.

Security Police
90th Missile Security Squadron
90th Security Police Group
90th Missile Wing

Home of the most powerful weapon known to man. The Peacekeeper intercontinental nuclear ballistic missile.

[remember]

what duty?
I was born in 1970.and since then, this country has been led by crooks, liars and manipulators.this country has been reeling because of the directions taken by our leaders.In my lifetime there hasn't been a military action that has occurred to ,"protect my freedom".that is a sad joke.these days the soldiers are the muscle of the wall street investors.(not that they haven't been for the past century,at least.)("War is a racket"USMC Gen. Smedley butler,1935)("merchants of death",a study of the international armaments industry,1934)

why assume if you love your country you should join the service?that may have been true 40 yrs. ago,but not anymore.the "training programs"(rob&sage,ft.bragg) going on in the services are getting distinctly like crowd control.even fema plans are written that if there was mass dissent of the citizens ,the constitution can be suspended,and martial law imposed.by US troops acting like UN troops in our country.so,there are sides forming these days.and the right one exists in and out of the military.

though I have many friends that were/are in many parts of the military,I seriously question this blind obediance,you guys are indoctrinated with.

there is a serious dissconnect between your cock-eyed sense of patriotism and your blind acceptance of the two party trap that grips our democracy(which if you get down to it is because this is a republic.and the group of people that have de facto control of the levers of power of this republic,do not have the honor and character that is needed to resist the slouching towards gemorrah,that we(republicans/democrats):and the country are going.
and you guys are just happy to pick a side and ride the ship down.service...pah!service to what?exxon,halliburton,bechtel

and that blind acceptance that the people at the top of the chain of command,en masse.,are not willing to sacrifice all the "expendables",you&me$everybody but them,to achieve success;dishonorably.


so "duty" is a dated,loaded word.what is your duty?what is mine?if only it were that easy.

[mjr]

Joined Army 96. Ft. Benning, Ga. AA, option Ranger
"House of Pain", wasn't a joke. Crippled my feet, discharged hon., and took a year to walk normal again.....BUT AT LEAST I TRIED.

[Senior Tech]

1980-1986 U.S.Army-Tactical Operations Specialist

[classical]

I forgot to mention Sgt E-5.

See I told you we would tell who has and who hasn't and I knew Clyde the conspiracies freak had not and would not serve.

You know Clyde its not that you don’t have any valid points but you are way of the deep deep end.

Duty is what you owe this country for what it provides you the freedom to speak your mind without fear. Try doing that in almost any other country in the world.
Your level of economic freedom is also well above what any other country offers; even our welfare poor live better than many in other countries that work every day and are considered middle class.
I am betting you have never been outside this country that you despise so much. Hell you are only 34 you don't have a clue.

As for the wars that have not protected our country and freedom think again.
Vietnam for all its faults as well as Korea stalled the communist and prevented them from expanding their sphere of influence. Consider for one moment the possibilities of not having stopped the Chinese from taking over South Korea the next would have been Japan and Taiwan. Then if we had not stalled them in Vietnam until the mid 70's all of Southeast Asia not just Cambodia. That would of course eventually included India Pakistani and the rest of the Pacific Rim. Russia would have moved right through Afghanistan into Iran Iraq and into the Middle East.
So where would we be today if that had happened this country would be a true third world country because the communist movement would control all of the oil and we would dependent upon them for our economy. We have seen where that got the Warsaw Pact countries and China and North Korea.
The cold war we fought in Europe was just as important because it kept Russia at bay and believes me they wanted to come out from behind that Iron Curtain very badly.
It is easy to sit in a chair in a nice home safe and secure postulating nonsense about the elite keeping us downtrodden. Reading a bunch of conspiracy books by people that are as troubled and mind numbed as your are is easy if it weren't you wouldn't do it.
You truly don't know the meaning of duty or honor or self-sacrifice. That takes an awareness of the world and life and you can't get there reading books by people that are frightened because they can't do the just string words together and fools buy their books and make them a living for doing nothing.

[zzonko]

Naval Mobil Construction Batallion 71

1969-1973

UtilitiesMan3 (refrig, plumbing, water treatment)

McMurdo Station,Antartica

Gitmo,Cuba

Naval Support Activity, Danang RVN

[bootlen]

Originally posted by zzonko
Naval Mobil Construction Batallion 71

1969-1973

UtilitiesMan3 (refrig, plumbing, water treatment)

McMurdo Station,Antartica

Gitmo,Cuba

Naval Support Activity, Danang RVN

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Ye gads!! I'm so sorry.

[hack hater]

I agree-Anarctica?Anarctica???Holy SH#$!!!!I was dreading orders that said Korea,I never dreamed I coulda got Anarctica!!