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    Quote Originally Posted by bwalley View Post
    The guy is breaking the law.

    The intent of the law is to keep unlicensed contractors from working.

    Maybe I will hire the guy to install some new equipment, then refuse to pay him since unlicensed contractors have no lien rights and can't sue to enforce a contract.

    He is stealing work from legitimate contractors.

    Would the owner of the company you work for like having to compete against people like him or others doing sidework?

    Bottom feeders are always bottom feeders. no matter what.
    This from a guy who is trying to sell a used 7 yr old walk inn in the bone yard for the price of a new,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,whoes a bottom feeder,,,,,have to say its you brently
    You sure are cocky for a starving pilgrim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipsrfine View Post
    Why not just arrange a meet & greet with the guy & tell him to his face that you' ve decided to stop him from being able to make his mortgage & he has to tell his wife & kids they have to leave their home. Mr. bwalley, you do not strike me as a decent human being. The fact that you use a statement such as "drop a dime" on someone indicates your character and quite probably your past. I have a low opinion of you sir.
    Looks like i found a new freind
    You sure are cocky for a starving pilgrim.

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    This seems to be an owner vs service tech issue. I only see owners from the area complaining about this post. I just have to ask the OP....how did you come across this add? Are you looking for someone taking away your biz or just curious?

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    The thing you are missing is maybe the guy owns the business and is playing a card to look like he is cheaper than anyone else.

    Maybe he has the licenses, I work for a company but carry electricial, HVAC as well as general contractor licenses.

    Maybe, he does not realize that the has to list his license(s).

    Maybe, he is just trying to feed his familly,

    Maybe, you are having problems getting work and don't like some else trying to get work.

    Maybe, I do not know what I am talking about.

    You see, you can not know about his licenses without asking him, and splitting a hair over a craigs list add is just more hassle than its worth.

    Jim

    His add says HVAC pensicola




    Quote Originally Posted by bwalley View Post
    He has a job, if he wants to be a contractor, he needs to get licensed like I and other legal contractors did.

    H is taking work away from other people who are licensed who are trying to feed their family.

    I have a hard time believing he is really working for an AC company who is slow right now, it is Florida and most companies are busy right now.

    Here is another one of his ads, he is trying to undercut other legitimate contractors.

    http://pensacola.craigslist.org/sks/1788419249.html

    Do you own a A/C business or do you work for someone who does?

    Are license required in your state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachhvac View Post
    This from a guy who is trying to sell a used 7 yr old walk inn in the bone yard for the price of a new,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,whoes a bottom feeder,,,,,have to say its you brently
    That cooler can't be bought new for what my client is asking for it, if you don't like the price don't buy it.

    Trying to sell a cooler is legal, what the guy in the craigslist ad is doing is illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwalley View Post
    It is a Felony to contract without a license, even if you only do it 1 time.

    A misdemenaor does not turn into a felony just because you get convicted and continue doing the saem offense.

    This guy has more than 1 craigslist ad, I am printing them out and sending the information to the local Building Department and the DBPR, hopefully they will do something to stop the guy.
    Right on Bro!! This is ridiculous. To advertise side work with no license or insurance.. This stuff pisses me off. Cant wait for jersey to adopt a Mechanical License.
    Gotta have the right tool for the job!

    Where is all the stuff MADE IN THE USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by james122964 View Post
    The thing you are missing is maybe the guy owns the business and is playing a card to look like he is cheaper than anyone else.

    Maybe he has the licenses, I work for a company but carry electricial, HVAC as well as general contractor licenses.

    Maybe, he does not realize that the has to list his license(s).

    Maybe, he is just trying to feed his familly,

    Maybe, you are having problems getting work and don't like some else trying to get work.

    Maybe, I do not know what I am talking about.

    You see, you can not know about his licenses without asking him, and splitting a hair over a craigs list add is just more hassle than its worth.

    Jim

    His add says HVAC pensicola
    All that does not matter.. What his ad is implying is illegal.. End of story.
    Gotta have the right tool for the job!

    Where is all the stuff MADE IN THE USA?

    "Thats what we do Troy. Incredible, Invisible, Imbelivable things. We are an Unseen, Unknown, Unvincible fraternity of craftsman.."

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    I wish people like the OP would hound dog their politicians more & let a "common man" the heck alone. Kinda similar to the law forbidding me to let loose a little refrigerant, or the public condemnation from the neighbors for not having recycling baskets in front of your house--and then you see the entire gulf of mexico going to crap because of the oil.
    The OP pisses me off because, in my opinion, he personifies the petty, mean spirited, & ignorant mind-set that is allowing this country to go to hell. Not to mention the first one willing to throw stones at someone else is definetly the one I'd be aiming at with my rock.
    MY POINT IS [B]IF YOU AIN'T DOING NOTHING TO HELP SOLVE THE BIG PROBLEMS THAT ARE SCREWING US ALL OVER, THEN LEAVE THIS GUY ALONE! Anyone who devotes their time to get one man in trouble for trying to get some side work during his down/slow/hard time is just a worthless individual. This guy takes the jobs you & others are too expensive for(for them). How about the guy with the family in the mobile home with kids who no way can afford your rates? who you turned your back on 'cause they didn't have that kind of money? This is the guy they turn to, and if you feel threatened by it, then obviously ............................ Anyone who thinks a guy like this is stealing your business are wrong. To reach out & cause this guy & his family hardship is wrong. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipsrfine View Post
    I wish people like the OP would hound dog their politicians more & let a "common man" the heck alone. Kinda similar to the law forbidding me to let loose a little refrigerant, or the public condemnation from the neighbors for not having recycling baskets in front of your house--and then you see the entire gulf of mexico going to crap because of the oil.
    The OP pisses me off because, in my opinion, he personifies the petty, mean spirited, & ignorant mind-set that is allowing this country to go to hell. Not to mention the first one willing to throw stones at someone else is definetly the one I'd be aiming at with my rock.
    MY POINT IS [B]IF YOU AIN'T DOING NOTHING TO HELP SOLVE THE BIG PROBLEMS THAT ARE SCREWING US ALL OVER, THEN LEAVE THIS GUY ALONE! Anyone who devotes their time to get one man in trouble for trying to get some side work during his down/slow/hard time is just a worthless individual. This guy takes the jobs you & others are too expensive for(for them). How about the guy with the family in the mobile home with kids who no way can afford your rates? who you turned your back on 'cause they didn't have that kind of money? This is the guy they turn to, and if you feel threatened by it, then obviously ............................ Anyone who thinks a guy like this is stealing your business are wrong. To reach out & cause this guy & his family hardship is wrong. Period.
    How do you know this guy's family is in hardship? He says the company is slow... So go find another company to work for.. bwallas said there is work down there and he is busy. Why not go get another job? I know I wouldnt sit on my as* and post for side work on a website like that. Its one thing to help friends and family but another to advertise the way he is. What was posted is illegal. Period. I'm a tech, not an owner. I don't do sidework like that b/c I do not have insurance nor do I have the contractors license. I have thought about it and if I did want to do side work I will get insurance and apply to the state for a license. I will abide by the laws and do it the right way. Why cant he?
    Gotta have the right tool for the job!

    Where is all the stuff MADE IN THE USA?

    "Thats what we do Troy. Incredible, Invisible, Imbelivable things. We are an Unseen, Unknown, Unvincible fraternity of craftsman.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascone10 View Post
    How do you know this guy's family is in hardship? He says the company is slow... So go find another company to work for.. bwallas said there is work down there and he is busy. Why not go get another job? I know I wouldnt sit on my as* and post for side work on a website like that. Its one thing to help friends and family but another to advertise the way he is. What was posted is illegal. Period. I'm a tech, not an owner. I don't do sidework like that b/c I do not have insurance nor do I have the contractors license. I have thought about it and if I did want to do side work I will get insurance and apply to the state for a license. I will abide by the laws and do it the right way. Why cant he?
    I'm in hardship, my rent is due, my refrigerator is nearly empty, I've been applying for jobs-only real job ad says "10 plus" years experience. It's been running for 2 months. Side jobs during this kind of time puts food on the table-literally. This is this guys way of not "sitting on his ass". When you go 5 miles over the speed limit, what you are doing is illegal.
    In work zones I go the 45 mile speed limit AND EVERYONE zoomes right past me,cars & big ass trucks-that puts workers lifes in danger & now & then kills some of them, but everyone of the ******ers think they're law abiding citizens.
    My point is, if the OP is going to take time out of his life to try & fix something in the world-or even his own neighborhood- he could darn well find something more worthy that "dropping a dime" on this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipsrfine View Post
    I'm in hardship, my rent is due, my refrigerator is nearly empty, I've been applying for jobs-only real job ad says "10 plus" years experience. It's been running for 2 months. Side jobs during this kind of time puts food on the table-literally. This is this guys way of not "sitting on his ass". When you go 5 miles over the speed limit, what you are doing is illegal.
    In work zones I go the 45 mile speed limit AND EVERYONE zoomes right past me,cars & big ass trucks-that puts workers lifes in danger & now & then kills some of them, but everyone of the ******ers think they're law abiding citizens.
    My point is, if the OP is going to take time out of his life to try & fix something in the world-or even his own neighborhood- he could darn well find something more worthy that "dropping a dime" on this guy.
    Im one of those guys that do 45 mph in a work zone... I understand there are people out there that need work. What is not disputable is advertising the work and not following the laws that are in place. Thats it. I'm not talking about how much food this guy has on his table.
    Gotta have the right tool for the job!

    Where is all the stuff MADE IN THE USA?

    "Thats what we do Troy. Incredible, Invisible, Imbelivable things. We are an Unseen, Unknown, Unvincible fraternity of craftsman.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipsrfine View Post
    I'm in hardship, my rent is due, my refrigerator is nearly empty, I've been applying for jobs-only real job ad says "10 plus" years experience. It's been running for 2 months. Side jobs during this kind of time puts food on the table-literally. This is this guys way of not "sitting on his ass". When you go 5 miles over the speed limit, what you are doing is illegal.
    In work zones I go the 45 mile speed limit AND EVERYONE zoomes right past me,cars & big ass trucks-that puts workers lifes in danger & now & then kills some of them, but everyone of the ******ers think they're law abiding citizens.
    My point is, if the OP is going to take time out of his life to try & fix something in the world-or even his own neighborhood- he could darn well find something more worthy that "dropping a dime" on this guy.
    Going 5 miles per hour over the speed limit in florida won't get you cited, per state law you can't be cited unless you are going 6 miles per hour or more over the posted speed limit.

    Speeding tickets are a civil infraction.

    Contracting without a license is a 3rd degree felony which is a criminal offense.

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    Pdrake: just curious, I try to stay informed of my enviroment. I sell things from time to time on CL and Ebay, so it's just natural that I check things out in my chosen profession. I was looking to get a feel for the communities feelings on this subject after running across this advertisement. I guess I got it then some....

    Tips: as OP did you mean to berate me as I am neither petty, mean-spirited or looking to have anybody "locked-up" or food taken from their family.

    Maybe this guy is legal too: http://mobile.craigslist.org/sks/1826899997.html

    There is a reason people get licensed and insured in this business, it's called public safety.

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