Supreme Court ruling on the 2nd Amendment was fool's gold

[wolfstrike]

all across the country, gun show goers and pro-Second Amendment gun owners celebrate as the Supreme Court strikes down a MINOR gun law.

...ALL a bunch of morons.

you have just made yourself accustomed to the idea the Supreme Court CAN make ruling on an inalienable Right

you think a 5 to 4 decision is good news? ...as Obama has already appointed two anti-American Marxists to the Supreme Court?

they gave you a nibble of cheese so you'll come back and stick your head in the mouse trap.

there is no concrete reference for the Supreme Court to consider because taking away individual guns rights was inconceivable as it would have meant the country would have been defenseless
our current corrupt government will not recognize the Bill of Rights as an example of agenda

To consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions [is] a very dangerous doctrine indeed...

The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal,

-Thomas Jefferson

[geerair]

all across the country, gun show goers and pro-Second Amendment gun owners celebrate as the Supreme Court strikes down a MINOR gun law.

...ALL a bunch of morons.

you have just made yourself accustomed to the idea the Supreme Court CAN make ruling on an inalienable Right

you think a 5 to 4 decision is good news? ...as Obama has already appointed two anti-American Marxists to the Supreme Court?

they gave you a nibble of cheese so you'll come back and stick your head in the mouse trap.

there is no concrete reference for the Supreme Court to consider because taking away individual guns rights was inconceivable as it would have meant the country would have been defenseless
our current corrupt government will not recognize the Bill of Rights as an example of agenda








-Thomas Jefferson

Slippery slope eh?

[jmac00]

Make no mistake. No one I know is claiming a victory here.

I think this is a set up ( a precursor if you will) to sweeping anti-gun legislation in the future.

There is no doubt people have a right to bare arms, the questions is: How much government control over those arms is there

In the Chicago and Washington DC cases the SCOTUS has said the citizens have a right to keep and bare arms, it also said the states have a right to regulate those arms.

In Chicago you can now own a firearm, you just cant leave your house with it in working condition. You must break it down so it is in operable. You can't even be on your front porch with a loaded, working firearm.

So the good news is, the Second Amendment stays and every citizen has a right to own a firearm, the bad news is, Governments can make it so difficult to get the firearm it virtually a worthless right. 'em

[hvacker]

[QUOTE=wolfstrike;7124372]you have just made yourself accustomed to the idea the Supreme Court CAN make ruling on an inalienable Right


Inalienable rights, rights that cannot be taken away such as life, liberty, pursuit of happiness are not the same as gun rights. You don't have an inalienable right to have a gun. You just have a garden variety right as in an amendment #2.
The Supreme Court makes ruling on all parts of the Constitution and it's Amendments all the time. It's their job.

[jmac00]

[QUOTE=hvacker;7128032]

you have just made yourself accustomed to the idea the Supreme Court CAN make ruling on an inalienable Right


Inalienable rights, rights that cannot be taken away such as life, liberty, pursuit of happiness are not the same as gun rights. You don't have an inalienable right to have a gun. You just have a garden variety right as in an amendment #2.
The Supreme Court makes ruling on all parts of the Constitution and it's Amendments all the time. It's their job.

FAIL!!!!!!!!!! I have a god given right to protect my family and friends. I have the right to do that with any means necessary. Unless you want to stand guard at my front door for the rest of your life, I MUST have the ability to own any device necessary, including 50cal rifles, protect myself and family.

YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DENY ME A GOD GIVEN RIGHT

[printer2]

[QUOTE=jmac00;7130972]

FAIL!!!!!!!!!! I have a god given right to protect my family and friends. I have the right to do that with any means necessary. Unless you want to stand guard at my front door for the rest of your life, I MUST have the ability to own any device necessary, including 50cal rifles, protect myself and family.

YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DENY ME A GOD GIVEN RIGHT

Yes they do have the right to deny you your right to defend yourself and family. It is the right given by wielding a bigger club than you hold.

You think you have rights until someone comes along and stops you from breathing. Then you find out we do not really have a right to be here.

[jmac00]

[QUOTE=printer2;7133472]

Yes they do have the right to deny you your right to defend yourself and family. It is the right given by wielding a bigger club than you hold.

You think you have rights until someone comes along and stops you from breathing. Then you find out we do not really have a right to be here.

no they don't. They can pass a law! But they don't have the "right" to deny me my RIGHT to defend my family

[printer2]

[QUOTE=jmac00;7143822]

no they don't. They can pass a law! But they don't have the "right" to deny me my RIGHT to defend my family

History shows that rights are temporary at best. Mind you we are turning into a more wussy world day by day.

[royc]

To defend one self is not a given law, its natural law. All beings on this planet defend themself, animals and human. Animals have been given weapons by nature. We have no such natural weapons, I as a human being have the right to defend myself by any means necessary, to meet a treath.

Can any authority take it away ?? No, YOU can give it away, or YOU can defend such right.

Remember, you have no rights, unless you insist on them.

And if any authority can give you a right, it can also take it away.


Roy

[hvacker]

[QUOTE=jmac00;7130972]

FAIL!!!!!!!!!! I have a god given right to protect my family and friends. I have the right to do that with any means necessary. Unless you want to stand guard at my front door for the rest of your life, I MUST have the ability to own any device necessary, including 50cal rifles, protect myself and family.

YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO DENY ME A GOD GIVEN RIGHT

Only, in most States, if they pose an imminent threat. And you won't survive your court date if, for instance, you nuke them, poison them, of take time to plot to kill them.
If you have the opportunity to call the cops (peace officers) you'd be better off doing that. Aside from Texas, most States will give you a very hard time with what is termed "Taking the law into your own hands."
When you do that you negate the legal system that makes an assumption of innocence.
Once convicted of a felony you'll loose your guns. So gun ownership,in many cases, rather than a right is more of a privilage.

[Hugh B]

The Bill Of Rights are all individual rights.

All the ten amendments stand or fall together. If we allow the government to override and severly limit any one of them then we have given up on all of them.

The second amendment is the one right that in the end secures all of the others.

If we allow the government to severly limit the second amendment we will also eventually lose the right to free speech. As it turns out the current government is already working on that.

[pdrake65]

The Bill Of Rights are all individual rights.

All the ten amendments stand or fall together. If we allow the government to override and severly limit any one of them then we have given up on all of them.

The second amendment is the one right that in the end secures all of the others.

If we allow the government to severly limit the second amendment we will also eventually lose the right to free speech. As it turns out the current government is already working on that.

Well said. That being said I am more concerned about what I have being taken away than what I can buy in the future as far as guns.

[hvacker]

The Bill Of Rights are all individual rights.

All the ten amendments stand or fall together. If we allow the government to override and severly limit any one of them then we have given up on all of them.

The second amendment is the one right that in the end secures all of the others.

If we allow the government to severly limit the second amendment we will also eventually lose the right to free speech. As it turns out the current government is already working on that.

Hugh, Number two is already limited. The 2nd is the most "yes but" of all of them. For instance, a convicted felon can't exercise the right to have guns. In NY the "right" is very curtailed. Where did their "rights" go.
It's a society insuring it's "right" to survive.
If a person is determined by a court of law that their "right " to bear arms is a real or imagined threat they will also lose their "right"
So you understand, it's viewed by the system as more of a privilege than a right. Even a person in an alleged domestic dispute might be asked to surrender any fire arms they might have. The #2 simply doesn't exist in the law as a right.
All rights have their limitations. Like often said yelling FIRE in a movie theater. So understand, the Gov giveth, and the Gov taketh away.
We aren't asked to surrender rights more than the number two.
It's not fire arms that secures our liberties. It's that we have the rule of law, not like Mexico, who subscribes to the rule of the man.
Just to suggest some alignment, I've seen NO attempt by our Government to suppress free speech. I doubt you have. If I were the administration and wanted to do that I would simply lock a Predator Drone on Limpballs house and swear it was the Al Qaeda.