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  1. #27
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    Originally posted by motorboy1
    Originally posted by James 3528
    Yeah Bush has made some mistakes...but pulling 70,000 troops out of Europe was a great move.
    Yeah, great move. He'll need them to replenish the troops in Iraq since I doubt any troops that have served there will actually re-enlist. I'll bet there is a mass exodus from the armed services right now. Iraq - what a mess! Smooth move, Georgie the idiot.
    We have 20,000 people too many and they are trying to force them out. Most of them are putting up quite a fuss. A mass exodis is definately not the case!
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    Well, just no more than 5 mintues ago on our 10:00 news this was announced.

    Another plant is closing, another 564 people out of jobs effective 9-1-04.

    Yep, good times, good times
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    I'm sure if kerry gets elected, the plant will open back up with 1700 new jobs. With health care even

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    Thank your wonderful unions for the exodus of jobs to other countries.

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    So nothing to put up ideas? No brilliant left wing plan to save America from the evil Republicans? I thought so. It's typical left wing tactics. Keep blaming George Bush, Dick Cheney, some of our favorites from the past like Newt Gingrich or whatever flavor of the month that the press wants to demonize and offer no real solutions of your own - well, except for more tax increases, more abortion and more of the United Nations. That solves everything. If only us wackos on the right would learn.

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    Originally posted by Irascible
    So nothing to put up ideas? No brilliant left wing plan to save America from the evil Republicans? I thought so. It's typical left wing tactics. Keep blaming George Bush, Dick Cheney, some of our favorites from the past like Newt Gingrich or whatever flavor of the month that the press wants to demonize and offer no real solutions of your own - well, except for more tax increases, more abortion and more of the United Nations. That solves everything. If only us wackos on the right would learn.
    Please tell me how Bush's tax cut did anything buy drive the country back into debt after Clinton left a 300 BILLION surplus. Bush is running the country into the ground spending more of taxpayer’s money for his big business friends then any President in the last forty years. He's spending all this money on Iraq for what? Big Oil is the only reason. If he's such a humanitarian why doesn't he invade Africa? The leaders there are worse tyrants than Sadam. We can only hope someday Bush and his gang of crooks will be held accountable to the people for crimes against humanity.

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    The country is not set up to run on a surplus. And there was no 300 billion surplus, numb nuts. IOf it had a surplus, that means the taxes were to high.

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    And even if there was...you can thank the republicans

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    Originally posted by James 3528
    And there was no 300 billion surplus, numb nuts.
    You have quite a way with words James...ever consider writing children books?
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    Originally posted by hvac r us 2
    Originally posted by James 3528
    And there was no 300 billion surplus, numb nuts.
    You have quite a way with words James...ever consider writing children books?
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    Yeah, James. That's the only way you'll ever get the dems/libs to understand.
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    Originally posted by johnl45
    Please tell me how Bush's tax cut did anything buy drive the country back into debt...
    Lesson one in economics: Human behavior when it comes to taxes is like anything else. It can be represented by a bell curve. If tax rates are 0 the government gets no revenue. If tax rates are 100% then again, no revenue because no one would work.

    In 1921 the top rate was 71. It was reduced to 24 percent and the economy grew by 59% between 21 and 29. In 1930 Hoover raised it to 63 percent and not so coincidentally we got a great depression (obviously other factors were in play as well). In the sixties the top rate was 91 percent. Kennedy lowered that to 70 but also reduced taxes on savings and investment. A long period of expansion followed. Reagan brought the top rate down to 28 percent and we had the longest peace time expansion in history as a result. Reagan nearly DOUBLED revenues to the government with a tax cut.

    Are you getting any of this John or are you going to continue to believe simplistic lies about how the economy works? There's been three huge tax increases since the Reagan years, once from Bush and twice from Clinton. The definition of recession accepted by all credible economists dictates this recession started under Clinton. If you understand ANYTHING about economics, you understand that government policies take months and years to affect the economy. Those tax increases setup this recession. As has been proven over and over, REAL tax cuts will bring us out and will also increase revenues.

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    Originally posted by Irascible
    Originally posted by johnl45
    Please tell me how Bush's tax cut did anything buy drive the country back into debt...
    Lesson one in economics: Human behavior when it comes to taxes is like anything else. It can be represented by a bell curve. If tax rates are 0 the government gets no revenue. If tax rates are 100% then again, no revenue because no one would work.

    In 1921 the top rate was 71. It was reduced to 24 percent and the economy grew by 59% between 21 and 29. In 1930 Hoover raised it to 63 percent and not so coincidentally we got a great depression (obviously other factors were in play as well). In the sixties the top rate was 91 percent. Kennedy lowered that to 70 but also reduced taxes on savings and investment. A long period of expansion followed. Reagan brought the top rate down to 28 percent and we had the longest peace time expansion in history as a result. Reagan nearly DOUBLED revenues to the government with a tax cut.

    Are you getting any of this John or are you going to continue to believe simplistic lies about how the economy works? There's been three huge tax increases since the Reagan years, once from Bush and twice from Clinton. The definition of recession accepted by all credible economists dictates this recession started under Clinton. If you understand ANYTHING about economics, you understand that government policies take months and years to affect the economy. Those tax increases setup this recession. As has been proven over and over, REAL tax cuts will bring us out and will also increase revenues.
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    Okay, James. Here's your first opportunity. Get Ira's permission to put this in children's book format (pics and all) so the dems/libs will get their first lesson in economics.
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    Please tell me how Bush's tax cut did anything buy drive the country back into debt after Clinton left a 300 BILLION surplus.
    --There was no surplus the clintonistas just used Enron tactics to cook the books to make it look better than it was. The recession started before Clinton was out of office too. Besides the debt isn't that big of a deal anyway the US has a smaller deficit compared to the GDP than any other country on earth. Bush's taxcut stimulated the small businesses which employ more workers than big business. I also like the fact that I don't have to pay as much in taxes. As far as taxcuts for the rich I think they should have their taxes cut seeing as tho they have shouldered most of the tax burden.I have never got a job from a poor person. Taxcuts are historically proven to stimulate the economy and increase the revenue to the government.

    Bush is running the country into the ground spending more of taxpayer’s money for his big business friends then any President in the last forty years.
    --You need to stop reciting to liberal mantra and look at the facts and think for yourself. Speaking of big business John Kerry is more connected to big business than Bush. His wife is a Billionaire and he has several billionaires supporting his campaign. John Kerry has not accomplished anything in his life except marrying two rich women and fooled enough people to get himself elected to the senate. He was a below average junior officer in the Navy and a AntiAmerican protestor before he was elected to the senate.

    He's spending all this money on Iraq for what?
    --Possibly because they violated the original cease fire agreement that stopped desert storm for twelve years and committed acts of war by firing on our planes patroling the no fly zones daily. Also encouraged and supported terrorism not only against the US but also against Israel. Iraq also was a safe haven for terrorists and had several terrorist training camps. Also they impeded the UN weapons inspectors from doing their job and eventually threw them out of Iraq this was also a condition of the original cease fire agreement. We were the victors in Desert Storm so we make the rules.

    Big Oil is the only reason.
    --Come on get real if it was for oil then we should paying 25 cents a gallon by now. Another example of mindless liberalthink.

    If he's such a humanitarian why doesn't he invade Africa? The leaders there are worse tyrants than Sadam.
    --Invade Africa? Which country? Africa is a continent not a country. Besides, the countries there are not committing the same crimes against the US as I described above. We had a legal right to invade Iraq we don't have a legal reason to invade any country in Africa as of yet. Although I do believe we have a moral responsibility to stop the slaughter going on there. Why doesn't the UN stop it? Because the UN is run by despotic dictators and has no interest in human rights only world domination.

    We can only hope someday Bush and his gang of crooks will be held accountable to the people for crimes against humanity.
    --This is just a stupid remark. Typical liberal trash talk.

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