Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 13 of 23
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Posts
    6,963

    Boycotting .........BP

    unless BP CEO Tony Hayward is running the station your never going to effect them except the guy running the station and the independent carrier guy delievering the product.they don't even make their own gas 19% of a 42 gallon barrel is used for gas production..they sell the oil out of the gulf to refineries and the station owners pay under contract to have the BP name only not the gas pumped..when the contract is up change the name of the station that would effect them but not for years and the gulf needs that $20 Mill now.
    "when in doubt...jump it out" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1qEZHhJubY

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    3,228
    also i doubt the selling of gasoline is the major portion of the pie for BP..i would think industrial applications for oil are the main purchasers of crude.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Western PA
    Posts
    25,556

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southeastern Pa
    Posts
    18,322
    A boycott against BP would only make them declare bankruptcy, and limit the amount by law that could ever be recovered by them.

    Instead, we should have them add 20 new sites in shallow waters where a leak is a non-event because human divers can immediately correct the leak and stop it at a few thousand gallons, instead of a few million.

    In addition, those rigs would provide new jobs and support businesses for the people who live in that area.

    You know why this won't happen? It's not part of the George Soros/environmentalist narrative.

    And we will all suffer because of that narrative.
    [Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
    2 Tim 3:16-17

    RSES CMS, HVAC Electrical Specialist

    AOP Forum Rules:







  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Plant City, Florida
    Posts
    2,198
    Boycotting BP is going to hurt individual stock holders and private business owners.

    BP is doing the right thing and stepping up to the plate to deal with this, if they get put out of business, it will be the taxpayers (You and I) who end up paying for this.

    They cut corners as well as haliburton and transocean, and they will pay the price for it.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Atlanta GA area
    Posts
    21,052
    As JP says, Boycotting BP is about feelings, not reality.

    What we need is SOLUTIONS, NOT politics.

    OK, I am about to start a flame war: Oilmen in the white house know how to resolve this stuff, community organizers do NOT... SOOO

    After we get through ranting... who is better qualified to SOLVE the problem?
    GA-HVAC-Tech

    Quality work at a fair price with excellent customer service!

    Romans Ch's 5-6-7-8

    2 Chronicles 7:14

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Plant City, Florida
    Posts
    2,198
    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    As JP says, Boycotting BP is about feelings, not reality.

    What we need is SOLUTIONS, NOT politics.

    OK, I am about to start a flame war: Oilmen in the white house know how to resolve this stuff, community organizers do NOT... SOOO

    After we get through ranting... who is better qualified to SOLVE the problem?
    BP is the b est company qualified to stop the oil leak, they are working on stopping it.

    They can't just plug it, a relief well has to be drilled, then it can be plugged.

    Drilling a relief well takes time.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Atlanta GA area
    Posts
    21,052
    Quote Originally Posted by bwalley View Post
    BP is the b est company qualified to stop the oil leak, they are working on stopping it.

    They can't just plug it, a relief well has to be drilled, then it can be plugged.

    Drilling a relief well takes time.
    Yes, I know... wish it were easy and quick, but it is not.

    My point was to raise awareness that a politician trying to gain political mileage from the oil spill; is not helping the situation much...
    GA-HVAC-Tech

    Quality work at a fair price with excellent customer service!

    Romans Ch's 5-6-7-8

    2 Chronicles 7:14

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Plant City, Florida
    Posts
    2,198
    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Yes, I know... wish it were easy and quick, but it is not.

    My point was to raise awareness that a politician trying to gain political mileage from the oil spill; is not helping the situation much...
    1 rule of politics is to never let a crisis go to waste.

    barry is trying to take credit for everything good that happens, but he wants no blame for anything bad that happens as a result of his decisions.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southeastern Pa
    Posts
    18,322
    Quote Originally Posted by bwalley View Post
    They cut corners as well as haliburton and transocean, and they will pay the price for it.
    Right now, all we have to support that are rumors and innuendo.

    We will not know the actual sequence of events until a full investigation is completed.
    [Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
    2 Tim 3:16-17

    RSES CMS, HVAC Electrical Specialist

    AOP Forum Rules:







  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Plant City, Florida
    Posts
    2,198
    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Right now, all we have to support that are rumors and innuendo.

    We will not know the actual sequence of events until a full investigation is completed.
    It is obvious that they screwed up, otherwise we would not have an active major oil leak in the GOM.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Atlanta GA area
    Posts
    21,052
    Quote Originally Posted by bwalley View Post
    It is obvious that they screwed up, otherwise we would not have an active major oil leak in the GOM.
    This logic, at first, makes sense... until one thinks a little farther:

    The other side of this logic is that it is possible to create a totally risk free society that never makes mistakes... Kinda a little lofty thinking IMO.

    Rather than sit on one's pinnacle and try to pass blame, how about we all roll up our sleeves and get to work resolving the issue and cleaning up the mess.

    One positive thing that will come from this is a better design of well-head that will handle the issue next time. However we probably will not hear about it, because it does not make 'big news' when something works correctly.
    GA-HVAC-Tech

    Quality work at a fair price with excellent customer service!

    Romans Ch's 5-6-7-8

    2 Chronicles 7:14

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southeastern Pa
    Posts
    18,322
    Quote Originally Posted by bwalley View Post
    It is obvious that they screwed up, otherwise we would not have an active major oil leak in the GOM.
    Actually, that is not "obvious."

    Any system that was designed, tested, and deemed to be reliable can fail, even under the best of circumstances. We do not know, at this point, whether there was a defect in the design or construction of the BOP, or if there was an installation or maintenance issue, nor do we know that everything passed muster, and some unforeseen even cause a catastrophic failure.

    What we DO know is that the fact that BP was forced to drill in deep water by being prevented from drilling in shallower water, where this could have been easily dealt with and contained.

    That is the lesson of this spill.

    An example of everything being checked and rechecked and yet, a tragedy occurs, is the piece of ice that made a hole in the shuttle wing, leading to the ingress of superhot plasma and the failure of the shuttle structure. The only argument that can be made to suggest that this was a screwup is to say that the engineers should have expected that chunk or ice to hit the wing, even though there were literally dozens and dozens of other uneventful launches.

    You cannot plan for every possibility.
    [Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
    2 Tim 3:16-17

    RSES CMS, HVAC Electrical Specialist

    AOP Forum Rules:







Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Comfortech Show Promo Image

Related Forums

Plumbing Talks | Contractor Magazine
Forums | Electrical Construction & Maintenance (EC&M) Magazine
Comfortech365 Virtual Event