Navy: That has been my thinking too and it's also why I'm so frustrated. I just don't understand. I have HVAC training, military training, civil Engineering training (no CE degree, just field work for a local company), I have my EPA certs and I have 3 years experience in general construction and NO ONE wants to hire me. Not having a pity party...that aint me, I'm a go getter... I'm just venting. I'm sure most of you can relate..