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    Quote Originally Posted by bootlen View Post
    You know of course that this is all Bush's fault, don't you?

    There will soon be a chart posted that shows how everything bad that happening under the Obama administration is actually Bush's fault. In fact, Obama's children even look a little like Bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Blah, blah-blah...you got nothing but blah-blah

    Why do you continue to waste our time and air that rational humans could be breathing?
    People's exhibit no. 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geerair View Post
    This is an interesting phenomenon and an excellent example of confirmation bias.
    This is an amazing statement as you have walked into your own trap. All of us seek out what justifies our own point of view, including you.

    You are doing exactly what you accuse Robo and others of doing as well as some of them doing this to you.

    It's a dog chasing it's tail argument that leaves out the possibility of people responding to a problem not because they have a bias belief system that is "out" to get a certain subject or person, but to deal with a real factual problem.

    And that is exactly why the problem is being talked about...because it is a real problem. If one person has a problem or over half a nation has a problems then it's a real problem that needs to be addressed in some honest and honorable problem.

    Putting people down for wanting to talk about thier point of view gets no one no where except to hide the problem until it gets worse. And it always gets worse. That's one reason why people go "postal", as a convenient term.

    This nation has a big problem. It had a big problem during the Bush administration. It had a big problem during the Clinton administration and many other administrations using the Presidency as a subject.

    But never is all history of the existance of the USA has there been such a economic and freedom problem as we face now. Who cares what the name of the person is in office or the group that he/she sticks too.

    The problem is the problem and must be delt with or all of us go down, as we already are.

    Now look to the source of these unbelievable problems and the fact entirely point to one small group of people that we elected as leaders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    You know of course that this is all Bush's fault, don't you?

    There will soon be a chart posted that shows how everything bad that happening under the Obama administration is actually Bush's fault. In fact, Obama's children even look a little like Bush.
    There already is a chart.

    If you are allergic to charts then merely look at the state of the U.S. on Bush's last day in office.

    Which of course was all dumped on the next Oval Office occupant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geerair View Post
    People's exhibit no. 1.
    Check it out, Robo. Geer is entering YOUR evidence against himself. How very handy of him.
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    I'm sure that twenty years from now I will be hearing how everything bad that ever happened was Bush's fault....No matter who's fault the past was....how about the future? Do you like the path we are taking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geerair View Post
    People's exhibit no. 1.
    That repeat comment is getting old along with all your other trival meaningless comments. Go take a break seek some help and go argue with your fellow dog washers and friends in the far left socialist Democratic Party. Thank you, thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post
    This is an amazing statement as you have walked into your own trap. All of us seek out what justifies our own point of view, including you.
    I seek the truth.

    You may seek out only confirmation of your views but I'd rather examine both sides and then come to a conclusion.

    Mostly, I fact check.......something which is alien to a numerous posters here.

    You are doing exactly what you accuse Robo and others of doing as well as some of them doing this to you.
    If you have evidence of this, please post it.




    It's a dog chasing it's tail argument that leaves out the possibility of people responding to a problem not because they have a bias belief system that is "out" to get a certain subject or person, but to deal with a real factual problem.
    You are kidding right?

    Boyd posted labor statistics which is fine as far as it goes but then accuses the Obama administration of jiggling the figures when these are the exact figures and methodology used by the Bush administration.

    There is no basis of dealing with a factual problem in an honest manner.

    Boyd is using one set of figures and methodologies for Obama and another for Bush in a purely political attampt to discredit Obama.

    This is a pure ideological ploy.





    And that is exactly why the problem is being talked about...because it is a real problem. If one person has a problem or over half a nation has a problems then it's a real problem that needs to be addressed in some honest and honorable problem.
    Thus my fact checking to reign in some of the wilder and more dishonest claims made here.



    Putting people down for wanting to talk about thier point of view gets no one no where except to hide the problem until it gets worse. And it always gets worse. That's one reason why people go "postal", as a convenient term.
    They may talk about their view till they explode but they must be prepared to have their views scrutinized.




    But never is all history of the existance of the USA has there been such a economic and freedom problem as we face now. Who cares what the name of the person is in office or the group that he/she sticks too.
    I would say that you have a short memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdrake65 View Post
    I'm sure that twenty years from now I will be hearing how everything bad that ever happened was Bush's fault
    If the shoe fits


    ....No matter who's fault the past was...
    Well for the entire Bush term, everthing was Clinton's fault. Even today the "it was all Clinton's fault" mantra is still in vogue.



    how about the future? Do you like the path we are taking?
    The path we are taking is soley dictated by the former administration.

    It is a tough path and one that may not be palatable to all, but when one is left with major problems by the former administration, these problems must be dealt with.
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    geerair
    You are amazingly funny in a sad way. You seek your own truth -- is what really is the truth. And you use others honorable displays of information, including and especially their own mistakes that we all make from time to time, to battle with. And that is as if you don't respond with your own limited experiences and points of view.

    You are probaly a good person, I'm sure. And probaly a good tech that would be great to work with. But as for an ongoing, open conversation it seems you came pre-notioned with the fact that you are the only one that can see and know and interpet the truth, which, ironically, fits your own belief system.

    Over & out.........................
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post
    geerair
    You are amazingly funny in a sad way. You seek your own truth -- is what really is the truth.
    I seek the gospel truth. Whether you accept it depends on your ideological biases.



    And you use others honorable displays of information, including and especially their own mistakes that we all make from time to time, to battle with. And that is as if you don't respond with your own limited experiences and points of view.
    Would you call using different figures and methodologies to compare administrations honorable?

    You are probaly a good person, I'm sure. And probaly a good tech that would be great to work with. But as for an ongoing, open conversation it seems you came pre-notioned with the fact that you are the only one that can see and know and interpet the truth, which, ironically, fits your own belief system.

    Over & out.........................
    I only look at the evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdrake65 View Post
    I'm sure that twenty years from now I will be hearing how everything bad that ever happened was Bush's fault....No matter who's fault the past was....how about the future? Do you like the path we are taking?
    Technically speaking, it our fault, were the folks that votes these people into office, right? I understand we have to vote for the lesser of the evils running, so instead of looking for who to fault, maybe we should be looking for solutions, but I have the feeling there really is no solutions, only compromises.
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    People need to stop taking government hand outs. When your local politician comes to town with that big cardboard check, white hardhat, and silver plated spade, tell him and can take all that and shove it up his arse. Till we do that, the madness will continue. The problem with America is Americans. People make a nation.
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