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    It sure as hell aint the beginning of a 3 day holiday weekend.

    The federal government should enact a law that all major holidays fall on a friday or a monday so a man can have a day off of work ....and a 3 day weekend every once in a while.

    Ive got half a mind to email Barry about this....but I doubt the government would have time to do anything about it before next week.
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    But I still might send that email......
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    News is out it is a big lie, they are not considering all the unemployed that gave up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2001 View Post
    News is out it is a big lie, they are not considering all the unemployed that gave up?
    Well surprise, surprise. Fascism/communism can only be imposed on a democracy through lies, deceit and or force. We are of course seeing the lies everyday now from the hearing on installing a "progressive" on the Supreme Court, passing the socialist Health Care bill and now it is part of the every day news coming out of DC by our commie loving Democrats and President. A sad day indeed for America but there are several on this forum who celebrate that and relish in this take over. Just check the posts. Amazing. Thank you, thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Well surprise, surprise. Fascism/communism can only be imposed on a democracy through lies, deceit and or force.
    You must be talking about one of these guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdrake65 View Post
    The Federal Government accounts for about 2 percent of the workforce paid for by our taxes. What is needed is a boost to the Private Sector.
    You have got to be kidding! No one can actually believe this without a really narrow minded perception of what our government pays for.

    Considering federal, state and local government employees, all who benefit from federal dollars and all are paid with some sort of tax dollar, we are at about 20% direct government workers. Consider that everyone working for school systems, even private schools, are getting federal tax dollars. Most union workers either work directly for a form of government or are indirectly paid from tax dollars because the government is paying for what union workers do. Railroad workers? 85% federal subsidized. Steel workers? Federal dollars. Military, NASA, any of the hundreds of alphabet soup organizations under government control....all paid with tax money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2001 View Post
    News is out it is a big lie, they are not considering all the unemployed that gave up?
    Yep. This is from a labor union site;
    The real unemployment rate is now 18.7 percent, compared to February’s real unemployment rate of 18.6 percent and to the much lower official BLS rate of 9.7 percent.
    http://www.goiam.org/index.php/imail...oyment-numbers

    This from a January 2010 Democrat leaning site;
    The Real Unemployment Numbers, 17.3%

    Written on January 9, 2010 by LogisticsMonster in Breaking

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    The latest job numbers came out this morning and everybody is still holding their breath, but thinking about relaxing just a wee bit because the 10% unemployment rate didn’t change. Don’t. They are spinning these numbers, and of course, not giving the full picture (as usual).
    http://logisticsmonster.com/2010/01/...-numbers-17-3/

    And here we have a more,,,,conservative figure;
    So, the true unemployment rate -which I define (as I think most would) as ALL people who want work but just can't find it- probably lies somewhere between 11.6% and 13.2%. If you consider individuals working part-time for economic reasons as unemployed, you get an unemployment rate north of 17.4%.
    http://investorcentric.blogs.nuwirei...nt-number.html

    What is for certain; there are a lot more Americans who want to be working that are not working then the government is pretending there is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Yep. This is from a labor union site; http://www.goiam.org/index.php/imail...oyment-numbers

    This from a January 2010 Democrat leaning site; http://logisticsmonster.com/2010/01/...-numbers-17-3/

    And here we have a more,,,,conservative figure; http://investorcentric.blogs.nuwirei...nt-number.html

    What is for certain; there are a lot more Americans who want to be working that are not working then the government is pretending there is.
    This is an interesting phenomenon and an excellent example of confirmation bias.

    Whenever a Republican is in office, government employment statistics are the only measure used by the conservative ideologue.

    However, when a Democrat occupies the Oval Office, government statistics are discarded and replaced with all manner of private statistics which show the occupant in an unfavorable light.

    Then when a Republican regains the office, the ideologue reverts back to government statistics and decries any attempt to use private statistics.

    We saw this all throughout the Bush administration. Private statisics were de-rided as inaccurate, politically motivated and expedient.

    Of course, these are the very same statistics the ideologue is utilizing now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by geerair View Post
    This is an interesting phenomenon and an excellent example of confirmation bias.

    Whenever a Republican is in office, government employment statistics are the only measure used by the conservative ideologue.

    However, when a Democrat occupies the Oval Office, government statistics are discarded and replaced with all manner of private statistics which show the occupant in an unfavorable light.

    Then when a Republican regains the office, the ideologue reverts back to government statistics and decries any attempt to use private statistics.

    We saw this all throughout the Bush administration. Private statisics were de-rided as inaccurate, politically motivated and expedient.

    Of course, these are the very same statistics the ideologue is utilizing now.


    That the situation is a complete apples and oranges fallacy, will be desperately denied by the ideologue.
    If you can find true government employment statistics that deal with real unemployment figures rather then just the government unemployment rate, please post them. I could not find them, so I posted stats from several different viewpoints, left and right.

    I don't see how I can be any more fair than with the links I posted. If you have something that shows this is not accurate, then please post it.

    But if all you have are accusations of how I am posting as opposed to your fantasy memories, then, as usual, your posts are simply meaningless drivel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    If you can find true government employment statistics that deal with real unemployment figures rather then just the government unemployment rate, please post them. I could not find them, so I posted stats from several different viewpoints, left and right.
    Of course you weren't nearly so eager to post these sources during Bush's reign.

    I don't see how I can be any more fair than with the links I posted. If you have something that shows this is not accurate, then please post it.
    I have no problem with these figures. I do have a problem with your utilizing different sets of figures depending on who is in the Whitehouse.

    But if all you have are accusations of how I am posting as opposed to your fantasy memories, then, as usual, your posts are simply meaningless drivel.
    Use the same figures for each administration and the problem disappears.

    Of course this would destroy your point, but then you have never let proper methodology stand in your way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geerair View Post
    Of course you weren't nearly so eager to post these sources during Bush's reign.

    I have no problem with these figures. I do have a problem with your utilizing different sets of figures depending on who is in the Whitehouse.

    Use the same figures for each administration and the problem disappears.

    Of course this would destroy your point, but then you have never let proper methodology stand in your way.
    Blah, blah-blah...you got nothing but blah-blah

    Why do you continue to waste our time and air that rational humans could be breathing?
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