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    Quote Originally Posted by royc View Post
    I think if you go back in history you will find similar fanatisism in the christian religion.

    I also believe in time islam will either moderate or it will destroy itself. It will not survive the modern world without moderating.

    And btw you cant convert me, I'm an NDE'r.

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    Quote Originally Posted by royc View Post
    ............I also believe in time islam will either moderate or it will destroy itself. It will not survive the modern world without moderating..............Roy
    Funny you say that roy. Islam is growing rapidly and has been since 911. As it gets more radical it grows more. Just the opposite of what you are proclaiming. The world is getting more modern and they are getting more radical and growing more.

    How is it destroying itself? Please inform us. I am all ears and would like to know how this is so. After all you claim to speak the truth. Please tell us. Basically that is pure BS and you know it. Thank you very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Funny you say that roy. Islam is growing rapidly and has been since 911. As it gets more radical it grows more. Just the opposite of what you are proclaiming. The world is getting more modern and they are getting more radical and growing more.

    How is it destroying itself? Please inform us. I am all ears and would like to know how this is so. After all you claim to speak the truth. Please tell us. Basically that is pure BS and you know it. Thank you very much
    Confucius say's..

    "Those with hammer in hand, are always looking for nails"

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    Quote Originally Posted by royc View Post
    Confucius say's..

    "Those with hammer in hand, are always looking for nails"

    Roy
    That certainly does fit Islam. Christianity on the other hand is in it's infancy. That would be why so many who proclaim to be Christians are still so unruly and not understanding of Jesus's teachings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by royc View Post
    You need to read my post a bit closer. I dont care what others claim the term means.

    Thats why I stated "I consider it"...and "thats how I look at it"


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    I would agree with this. Roy speaks a language no one else does so communicating with other humans is difficult for him. He often disagrees with Webster, Merriam, and Oxford.
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    Get ready for "The Holy War on the Eastern Shore", coming to you 9/11/2011!



    Just takes one pissed off redneck and a van full of fertilizer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DavyB View Post
    Get ready for "The Holy War on the Eastern Shore", coming to you 9/11/2011!



    Just takes one pissed off redneck and a van full of fertilizer.


    The opening date shall live in infamy: Sept. 11, 2011. The 10th anniversary of the day a hole was punched in the city's heart.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...#ixzz0pKEldSQJ

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...WS0lXuAnQau5uL
    Well, they can always be open to the idea of permitting the building of a bronze statue of osama bin laden out front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavyB View Post
    Get ready for "The Holy War on the Eastern Shore", coming to you 9/11/2011!



    Just takes one pissed off redneck and a van full of fertilizer.


    The opening date shall live in infamy: Sept. 11, 2011. The 10th anniversary of the day a hole was punched in the city's heart.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...#ixzz0pKEldSQJ

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...WS0lXuAnQau5uL
    Best summation I read.

    "If the Japanese decided to open a cultural center across from Pearl Harbor, that would be insensitive," Sipos told me. "If the Germans opened a Bach choral society across from Auschwitz, even after all these years, that would be an insensitive setting. I have absolutely nothing against Islam. I just think: Why there?"

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    Why there?

    They want it there to commemorate the brave 17 who died to bring the sword of Islam upon the neck of the beast. Have no doubt, this is an Islamic advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    Why there?

    They want it there to commemorate the brave 17 who died to bring the sword of Islam upon the neck of the beast. Have no doubt, this is an Islamic advance.
    Exactly why!!!

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    Why, indeed!

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    Executive order?

    Oh goody; Obama has now chimed in on this issue for the official White House stand;
    "As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country," Obama said, weighing in for the first time on a controversy that has riven New York City and the nation.
    "That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances," he said. "This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable."
    Very typical Muslim ploy to use the laws of a land in order to overtake that land.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100814/...o_mosque_obama

    Just why has Obama even felt the need to weigh in on this? Once again, Obama is taking sides in an issue that can only create division in American citizens.

    I also question the venue in which Obama made this declaration;
    Obama made the comments at an annual dinner in the White House State Dining Room celebrating the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.....
    .....Obama surely knew that his words would not only make headlines but be heard by Muslims worldwide. The president has made it a point to reach out to the global Muslim community, and the over 100 guests at Friday's dinner included ambassadors and officials from numerous Muslim nations, including Saudi Arabia and Indonesia. Seated around candlelit tables, they listened closely as Obama spoke, then stood and applauded when the president finished his remarks.
    Have dinners commemorating other religious holidays been held in the White House? I really don't know. I have not seen anything in the news about Christian, Jewish or Asian philosophy dinners at the White House.

    On a personal note, I am physically ill over this man's continued support of issues that divide our nation.
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