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  1. #53
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    You should take time to listen to national news..............All across the country they are pushing the seatbelt law hard right now.I heard it sereral times.Your state thanks you for funding thier rampant spending!lol
    Take your time & do it right!

  2. #54
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    I personally wear my seatbelt, but I don't like the government telling whether I should or not. That being said, its all about generating revenue. All of the local governments have been "broke" since 9/11 so they have to figure out bs ways to generate revenue. I don't have a problem with that its just the way to do it. I live it Cook County, IL and I don't know how many cops I see run red lights around here, but that really ticks me off. I was fixing my car in the parking lot about a month ago and was hassled, because it is against the law to fix my car on the public streets in this area. Now mind you I was parked on a parking lot away from traffic not bothering anyone. The only peron I could hurt was myself. I used to think it was about money, now I think the cops are just lazy and want to go after the easy crimes. I have family in the northwest side of Chicago and the drivers there are bad. Running red lights, blowing stop signs, going down the wrong way on a one way street, and speeding. It is rare that someone gets stopped for a traffic citation around here even a DUI, but parking tickets are another story. There are so many parking restrictions around here that it is very difficult to park. These tickets are not cheap. They average around $50.00 for an infraction, and yet Mayor Daley says the city is still "broke". I think that people are having less and less respect for anyone in government. This includes, city officials, cops, and judges. They all seem to be on a power kick and don't care about doing their job well at all.

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    [ deleted by Boss

    not in this section please ]

    [Edited by Boss on 07-05-2004 at 01:36 PM]

  4. #56
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    For all of those who feel so strongly that the seat belt (or MC helmet) laws are excessive government intrusions into our personal rights, I am curious to know your thoughts on the government's requirements for a driver license, auto registration and liability insurance.

    What about DUI laws, speed limits and headlights after dark?

    In my state (FL) we have no form of vehicle safety inspection and it's reported that one out of three drivers you meet on the roadway is uninsured. Now THAT concerns me as well.


  5. #57
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    For all of those who feel so strongly that the seat belt (or MC helmet) laws are excessive government intrusions into our personal rights, I am curious to know your thoughts on the government's requirements for a driver license, auto registration and liability insurance.

    What about DUI laws, speed limits and headlights after dark?


    What's the difference between this and licensing HVAC contractors? How far should it go? Should there be limits to any government intervention? How far should our rights go?

    Hopefully,
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  6. #58
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    Originally posted by swat
    No offense but your attitude sucks.

    F!@# off (Calm down, I'm kidding)

    You told the guy to get run over while writing the ticket.

    yep F!@# him.

    Do you have any idea how many times a year that happens?

    Not enough?

    It has happened here twice this sumer already and it is not something I would allow any one I knew to say with out a severe ass chewing and depending on who and how close I was to them an ass whoopin for being such a jerk.

    So who are you?

    The guy is doing his job. He does not choose the laws but merely enforces them.

    A few months ago a punk kid cut me off while he was changing lanes and he was driving like a "jerk". I got pissed and instead of ramming him and beating the **** out of him, I called 911 to let them handle it. They acted like it was my fault for being on the road. And I had to call three times and finally went to the police station.

    And here we have a cop pulling people over for seatbelt bull****.


    You really need to have a hell of a lot more respect for the civil servants of your community whether you like what they do or don't.


    You don't get out much do you?

    Man you just lost a ton of respect IMO and maybe it does not matter but God dang that is some ridiculous behavior you got there.

    You're right it doesn't matter!!

  7. #59
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    Originally posted by arc8
    For all of those who feel so strongly that the seat belt (or MC helmet) laws are excessive government intrusions into our personal rights, I am curious to know your thoughts on the government's requirements for a driver license, auto registration and liability insurance.

    What about DUI laws, speed limits and headlights after dark?


    What's the difference between this and licensing HVAC contractors? How far should it go? Should there be limits to any government intervention? How far should our rights go?

    Hopefully,
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    Not wearing seatbelts does not cause accidents.

  8. #60
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    No, but it lessens their effect. Its sad to see a 2 year old picked up off the pavement when their parents don't buckle them down and they are ejected from a vehicle.

  9. #61
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    Maybe it's an authority thing. Maybe they're the same ones who wouldn't eat their veggies when they were kids. Maybe they had to stay after school for disobeying the rules. Maybe there were too many rules in college, or in an office environment, so MAAAYBEEE, they became.........

    Oh, gawwwwd nooooo.... HVAC men!!!!

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    Originally posted by infwsdm
    Originally posted by swat
    No offense but your attitude sucks.

    F!@# off (Calm down, I'm kidding)

    You told the guy to get run over while writing the ticket.

    yep F!@# him.

    Do you have any idea how many times a year that happens?

    Not enough?

    It has happened here twice this sumer already and it is not something I would allow any one I knew to say with out a severe ass chewing and depending on who and how close I was to them an ass whoopin for being such a jerk.

    So who are you?

    The guy is doing his job. He does not choose the laws but merely enforces them.

    A few months ago a punk kid cut me off while he was changing lanes and he was driving like a "jerk". I got pissed and instead of ramming him and beating the **** out of him, I called 911 to let them handle it. They acted like it was my fault for being on the road. And I had to call three times and finally went to the police station.

    And here we have a cop pulling people over for seatbelt bull****.


    You really need to have a hell of a lot more respect for the civil servants of your community whether you like what they do or don't.


    You don't get out much do you?

    Man you just lost a ton of respect IMO and maybe it does not matter but God dang that is some ridiculous behavior you got there.

    You're right it doesn't matter!!
    I tell you what I don't consider mself the type to go around a pray and preach but some one needs to say or do somethingfor you because your mojo aint good.


    Your maturity really shines through your post. I was looking forward tosome sort of repsonce on your part but rather than stooping to your level maybe I will say a prayer for you instead.

  11. #63
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    Re: Seatbelt

    Originally posted by selfemployed
    Saved my life 25yrs. ago. Car traveled 360 feet after leaving the road. They weren't required then. Motorcycle helmets have always been required here.
    Thats not true. There were NO motorcycle helmet laws anywhere in the country until the 70's. I know NC was around before that!!
    Warning: Just because I am over the head injury doesn't mean I'm normal!

    The day I stop learning.... I'm dead!

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    Re: Re: Tickets are written to generate revenue...period!

    Originally posted by Diceman
    Originally posted by maintenanceguy
    I always wear mine but this is America and if your not hurting anyone else, you ought to be able to do what you want.

    Them days are long gone.
    I agree getting pulled over for that sucks, but......if ya don't wear your seatbelt you're nuts.
    As far as motorcycles, well, riding one of them around is also crazy, helmet or no
    Sounds like you have a real problem with authority huh?
    Just because people enjoy the freedom that our country was founded on does not make them crazy or have a problem with authority.
    Warning: Just because I am over the head injury doesn't mean I'm normal!

    The day I stop learning.... I'm dead!

  13. #65
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    grasshopper

    Your right about the helmet thing in N.C. I have worn one since I started riding because I did a lot of off road. Got my license in 69'. Sorry for the misinformation.
    Be safe not fast. body parts don't grow back

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