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  1. #1
    We got this big old A/C compressor, a fifty horse direct drive, we got the unit down from the upper motor room and we're out on the loading dock gonna set it into the back of a company pick up truck.

    There was a variety of opinions about HOW it outa be shoved in there.

    To make a long story short ... the last words I heard from the guy runnin the pallet jack was; "Watch out, I'm gonna hafta bump it!"

    As four of us stood there watching .... this fifty horse carlyle ROLLED end over end, (side over side ?), tumbling into the front of the pick up truck ... where it promptly punctured a thirty of twenty-two .... giving us all a big ol blast of really cold stuff..... ......


    As my co-worker and I are pulling away from the dock ... he rolls down his window and says; "Now remember, this NEVER really happened! .... Right?"


    ROFLOL!!!



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    Hehe, that is kinda funny, been there kinda.

    Once was told by my boss to head out to a 50+hp Carrier compressor replacement because the guys were having problems.

    Got there and they(crew) was gone, Hehe, they were trying to move compressor sitting on top of big ole water cooled condenser and they broke off the high pressure relief on condenser, think it was about 200lbs 22. Musta been scary. Didnt see or here from them boys for awhile afterwards. Funny thing, always had problems with the tubes after that!

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    Talking

    If you do not have a couple of regular lifting slings, like those used by crane operators, the next best thing for slinging a compressor into the back of a truck with a fork lift is a couple od long B groove belts. They are heck-a strong and can be folded for storeage when not in use. Sling the compressor and put the loop of the belts over the fork. You can set it anywhere and no one gets hurt.

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    I remember seeing some guys using B belts for this. It's been a while though.

    I do have a couple of slings. I need more. I LOOOOVE having a selection.

    Actually, there were casting holes, threaded, for eye bolts and chain. And I carry that kind of stuff.

    My preferance is for chains and eye bolts over slings.
    But these other suys just kept acting like it was NOT gonna be a problem and that they had it covered.

    Well .... they DIDNT have anything covered!

    I would NOT wished to be there when that truck pulled up at the rebuilders shop.
    It musta been pretty embarassing for the driver, a young guy, to have to explain how that unit was was NOT sitting atop a pallet, or at least strapped down inside the bed.

    Ooooops ....


    Carlyle sure builds tough compressor casings .... yep.



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    What's a direct drive compressor?
    work to live not live to work

  6. #6
    Originally posted by airmax
    What's a direct drive compressor?
    A coupled drive compressor has a separate drive motor which is coupled to the compressor.

    So if either one goes out, only the failed component needs rebuilding or replacement, and NOT the entire affair.


    (personally, I like belt driven myself. In the bigger units)

  7. #7
    Originally posted by R12rules
    Originally posted by airmax
    What's a direct drive compressor?


    (personally, I like belt driven myself. In the bigger units)
    When I first got in the trade most of the stuff I worked on was belt drive. Techumseh, Brunner, Carrier, Yorks. The belts and sheaves were a pain to keep up. Some of the real old ones had condenser fan bolted to the drive sheave on the motor. As time went on wholesale houses quit carrying these types of sheaves. The boss had an Atlas lathe and we used to recut the belt grooves to get some more life out of the unit before the enevitable. One good thing about the belt drives is that they turned so slow they lasted for ever, unless you overtightened the belts.

    Ah the good old days..........

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    Pulled a cap off the king valve of a 325 ton carrier and it dumped the whole charge I was new and I was trying to shut it before anyone saw. I did not realize the valve was bad until after the whole charge dumped and an older tech looked at it. I laugh about it now, but it almost cost me a good pair of pants.
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    "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
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    Talking

    The more I hear about that outfit you are working for 12........well........I dunno..........
    Hey cockroach, don't bug me! ©

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    Bring Em Home....

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    It's fortunate that the only fatality of the day was a jug of green juice. R12........I know that being the new kid on the team doesn't allow you to give much direction in situations like this, so just try to stay out of harm's way when you see it coming.

    As for the B-belts thing, I agree with you and would stick with the chains. Belts aren't made for lifting, chains are. Don't get sucked in by these yahoos and their stupidity......do it right, man.

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    Remember, you are always supposed to come home with all your fingers and toes. This is your responsibility. When work like is this is done right, it is hazardous. Done wrong it is life threatening.

    R-12 find a market company that is not run by Abbott and Costello. There has got to be one in your area.
    A Diamond is just a piece of coal, that made good under pressure!

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    The only trouble is, every outfit in the area works their men into the ground with night calls.
    It's the only thing I hate about markets.
    Well not just markets, but the industry in general.

    When I get home at night ... be it five or be it nine PM ... I am NOT the man you want to call up and ask to send out on a night call!
    I am so spent by the time I get home ... I just wanna be with my family and that's it.

    Maybe if I lost some weight I'd like to be more active.
    Maybe if the weather in this part of the country didnt suck, BIG TIME ... I would be more interested in outdoor activities.

    Prior to moving here to Texas, I lived in the mountains at high elevations. I camped out regularly.
    Regularly I would set up a cot and sleep out under the stars at night.
    I would regularly go hiking in the mountains or drive ninety miles and go to the beach.

    I am just not climatized to this humid weather here.
    In reality, I am not the same person I was when I lived and worked in California.
    In same ways...most I guess. I am better here. I am happy with my family.
    It's just that in California ... the weather only got hot, but not unbearable.

    For me to get out on a roof and work, I have to grin and bear it.
    And so by the time I get home at night... I have already given my all. I have no energy left to go running around doing "make-work" calls.

    Like this afternoon. On the way home I was cleared to leave Austin and head for the barn. Part of the way home I get called asked if I want to go fifty miles NORTH of town to handle a meat line down or stay in town and handle some sweating cases.

    I stayed in town.
    Those cases have had a problem for many weeks. This is NOT a new issue.
    But here they go; calling for emergency service on a Friday late afternoon!

    My favorite was that Memorial Day weekend call for "fans making too much noise in produce case".
    Fans hitting the high water mark is what was wrong.
    Took all of ten minutes to clear off the top of the drain screen and let the water flow downhill into the drains...

    And for this ... I left my family.





    I am getting addicted to this market work.
    I LIKE IT!!!




    However, the night calls, the weekend calls ...no thanks.
    Yet everyone here in Central Texas expects you to work forty and forty.
    40 during the week and 40 on the weekends.




    Bennies, medical insurance, uniforms, properly equiped service vehicles, appropriate wages/ compensation, expediant use of modern technology to keep track of calls and such ...this would be nice too.

    But there's NO bennies. No medical to speak of. And nobody speaks of it. It is actually a very sore subject.
    Pay so low ... it makes me question WHY the guys I work with stay there.
    Do they all have criminal records or something?

    And this attitude of; "it's my way or the highway"... that really stinks.

    I may be new to markets, but I'm making it. However ... I am NOT new to refrigeration service work.
    I got a lota years behind me. (and believe you me, IT SHOWS).

    I would simply like toput it to good use somewhere it would be appreciated and compensated.
    And not be put under the stress of the aforementioned circumstances.

    Being on call every other weekend is just a bit much ... in my book.
    Yet this is what is expected here.
    I no longer make sugestions.
    I dont give my opinions. I just try to keep my big mouth shut and do the very best job I can.


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    Cool

    R-12, I feel your pain. I moved from Cal in 1995 to Idaho where I thought the wife and kids and I could improve the time we had together. You know rural living and less time at work. I found the same thing you are talking about. The wages were s**t compared to what I was making in Cal, no bennies to speak of, and the traveling was unbearable. I was at the other end of the weather extreme. Summers were nice but way too short. Winter was way too cold and about 8 months. I found that I was actually away from home more in my new setting than I was in Cal. The company covered an area that was about 6 hours in any direction from my house, and most of those accounts were in small towns that had no wholesale houses, so if you needed something that was not on the truck you turned around and went to get it. Lots of nights spent living in hotels at my own expense because it did not make sense to get in the truck and drive home after finishing the job. I only lasted 1.5 years there, and the rest of the job market in that part of the country was pretty depressed. 6-10 bucks/hr max.

    I got lucky and was able to get my old job back at Tyler Refrigeration and with much argument from my better half we moved back. It is hard to beat the wages work and weather in the bay area. I have gotten out of the market work (about June 2000) cuz Tyler was purchased by Carrier Co. and things were sliding downhill fast. I jumped ship before the bow breached water. Tyler branch was closed and sold to a company in Seatle, Key Mechanical. They are doing a good job of comming back, and I know some people there. Who knows might get the opportunity to return to my passion. I am doing high end A/C (clean rooms and process) but I still long for doing market, and for that fact, any refrigeration. A/C is not as challenging but it is paying the bills.

    You sound like a pretty knowlegeable tech, so just cuz you have not work specifically in markets don't sell yourself short on your ability. Shop arround and sell yourself as a fast learner and a responsible mechanic and you should be able to hook up with a better paying job at a place that treats you better. Ask at the wholesale houses about the other companies in the area, and talk it up with mechanics at other companies.

    Good luck you have come a long way in a short time.

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