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  1. #1
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    What component went wrong: BOTH heat pump & Oil furnace came on.

    Noticed something odd today. Heard the heat come on as it still in the 50s here in the People's Republic of NY. Normally I wouldn't have thought much of this, but was surprised when I realized I heard the oil furnace on, as the heat pump normally works above 32 or so. Stuck my head outside & to my amazement heard the outside compressor on as well.

    Any thoughts as to what to check for? I have a Honeywell bulb thermostat outside that is used to control the changeover temp from heatpump to oil, which is what I first suspect.

    Any thoughts? ideas?

    Thanks to all in advance.

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    The last time I did that I put someone's kid through college!

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    Very tough to get a "pro" in who is 1) actually a pro, 2) knows what they are doing, 3) will show up at something approaching on time and 4) At a reasonable price, which I will gladly pay for quality work.

    Even if I didn't do it myself, I like to have a clue so I can be better able to tell if I am being BS'd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jws3 View Post
    Very tough to get a "pro" in who is 1) actually a pro, 2) knows what they are doing, 3) will show up at something approaching on time and 4) At a reasonable price, which I will gladly pay for quality work.

    Even if I didn't do it myself, I like to have a clue so I can be better able to tell if I am being BS'd.
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    Nobody said we're cheap. Valuable yes, cheap no.

    You need somebody who understands dueal fuel systems. This is not the run of the mill tech. You will pay, I'm sure of that. But then again, you're paying now in the form of higher energy by running both the HP and the oil furnace. So...you choice.
    If YOU want change, YOU have to first change.

    If you are waiting for the 'other guy' to change first, just remember, you're the 'other guy's' other guy. To continue to expect real change when you keep acting the same way as always, is folly. Won't happen. Real change will only happen when a majority of the people change the way they vote!

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    [QUOTE=jws3;6516682]Very tough to get a "pro" in who is 1) actually a pro, 2) knows what they are doing, 3) will show up at something approaching on time and 4) At a reasonable price, which I will gladly pay for quality work.

    Even if I didn't do it myself, I like to have a clue so I can be better able to tell if I am being BS'd.[/QUOTE

    1. I am a pro, check my licenses with the state and my insurance info.
    2. I really know what I am doing
    3. The only time we guarantee is first call in the morning....how would you schedule a visit when you have no idea how long the appt. right before yours is going to take? (Sorry, I am not done here but I have to get to my next appt.)
    4. I am reasonable, high quality and guarantee my work.....can you find someone cheaper? yes, but you also wanted #2 above

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    If you replace all of the possible components that could be responsible, it will cost a lot more than calling a tech that knows how to diagnose and repair it properly.
    A good HVAC tech knows how, an educated HVAC tech knows why!

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    Just turn off the oil furnace breaker and shutoff oil valve.

    Now you have all spring and summer to find someone competent to fix your system...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jws3 View Post
    Very tough to get a "pro" in who is

    1) actually a pro,

    2) knows what they are doing,

    3) will show up at something approaching on time and

    4) At a reasonable price, which I will gladly pay for quality work.

    Even if I didn't do it myself, I like to have a clue so I can be better able to tell if I am being BS'd.
    1. Don't call the cheapest guy in the phone book.

    2. Again, don't call the cheapest guy in the phone book.

    3. Schedule the call so its the first call of the day for that tech/company.

    4. Your definition of reasonable, and what we know is reasonable may be two different things from the sound of your post.



    Screen the company over the phone.
    Ask them if they are trained to work on dual fuel systems.
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    I would prefer a pro, but have had difficulty finding good people.

    I am FAR from cheap (just look in my garage and will pay for quality. But, I have run into "parts changers" & those who take a look in said garage & then jack up the price.

    I did have a decent guy, but he apparently left the company I used to use. Much of my skepticism comes from last year, when I was looking into upgrading my system. Many of the quotes & suggestions I got were beyond outrageous at worst or guesses at best. I, as a homeowner, should not know more than the tech, but that's what happened more than once. I said nothing, but just listened & quietly scratched them off the list. I hire people when 1) I lack expertise or 2) Just don't feel like dealing with it, which happens as the years go on.

    I live near Poughkeepsie, NY if anyone is somewhat local.

    I only heard both simultaneously only once as I just happened to be in the basement when it turned on. I posted here as I've noted this board to be a wealth of info and more. I suspected I'd need a pro, but like to understand what is going on.

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    Its easier for us to tell you if they are/were on the right track after you post what they checked, or found. Then for us to just guess over the internet with out being able to check anything.
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    Thanks. Not in the least trying to be difficult or seek a freebie (more)

    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    Its easier for us to tell you if they are/were on the right track after you post what they checked, or found. Then for us to just guess over the internet with out being able to check anything.
    I was hoping to gain a little understanding on what to look for, as I'm one of those who likes to understand things & hire a good tech when needed. Few homeowners would even notice that both were on, IMO.

    It is tough to find somebody with a clue on duel fuel systems, hence my questions. I'll always pay for quality, but resent being charged more because people think I can afford it. Seen that happen, not that I am wealthy or the like.

    I'll have to make a few calls tomorrow and see what they say.

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