Well i will tell you from our shop that, that is totally wrong, were doing just the opposite. A little personal insite, we are bidiing install jobs at way over what every other company is here, and for that were taking a huge hit, becouse were not getting many install jobs. The same goes for service, were bidding everything too make money, i know iv'e lost alot of bids becouse i was higher than what i should have been, but thats what comes down from my bosses. So no as far as i know there not lowballing anything, i cant speak for every branch and every cirmstance, but i do know were bidding to make money, weather we get the jobs or not, they dont care, they want too make money, not lose it, just like every other company out there. And ir/hussmann as big as they are, are not an endless pot of money, and cant afford to bid to lose money.