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Thread: Example of socialism
04-08-2010, 08:57 PM #14
Printer heres my belief: If we lived in the right kind of society, then we WOULD take care of the poor & needy, but guess what, we would also do what was needed to REDUCE the amount of those people who are poor & needy. ( education, providing jobs, etc - which we could do if the amount of poor people was low enough ). But instead, we don't do much to get people to a higher level to be self-sufficient, we just keep letting the poor have more children & more children, until we end up with more & more poor & needy.
IOW: we don't take care of the problem, we just throw money at them & HOPE they'll go away ( in a sense ).
When the US starts reducing the poor population & providing the means to keep the numbers of poor & needy limited, then I will support the effort, but until then....leave me & my paycheck alone.
04-08-2010, 09:12 PM #15
Your full of ****. I am an honest person who DOES NOT take advantage of my customers, but treats them ALL ( rich or poor ) alike. I make a living, not a killing off of my customers. I have all I need & most, by far, of what I want & my customers have provided it for me....I WILL NOT take advantage of them.
I treat people as I want to BE treated ( at least at first, then I treat them as they DO treat me ).
Though we are animals, the survival of the fittest is NOT the way decent folks live....it may work for you, but not for me....
& by the way, I just installed 2 VS systems for a customer...charged them the same price ( profit wise ) that I charge for any system the same size. I DO NOT MARK UP MY EQUIPMENT on installs. They got the IAQ thermostats at my cost with NO additional labor added ( it was thrown in ) & they got a case of pleated filters at MY cost. I also built filter racks for both units without additional cost. I made the same money as any other same size system I install even though it took me about 2 hours each more labor time.
These were not poor customers, but I do what I believe in, not what others do.....so you can just KISS MY ***.
04-08-2010, 09:19 PM #16Professional Member
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"I have all I need & most, by far, of what I want & my customers have provided it for me...." Sounds like your a sucker.
04-08-2010, 09:28 PM #17
04-08-2010, 10:10 PM #18
But as even in the most communistic of countries people were allowed to rise to the top, even if it were only for political purposes, the ones that were better at watching where the wind blew ended up with more.
As it stands we both have societies where the sky is the limit for either of us. Do you want to be the next Bill Gates? Go right ahead. The founder of Cirque du Soleil was a Canadian street performer who is now worth over a billion dollars.
You are right we have to get our people educated. It is the best way for people to have a better life. I seem to remember reading that is one of Obama's goals to increase the education of those on the bottom.
Since the downturn my local government is reducing funding to all the departments except Education and Health. Two things most people feel is important to the future health of society.
When the US starts reducing the poor population & providing the means to keep the numbers of poor & needy limited, then I will support the effort
04-08-2010, 11:03 PM #19"I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them."
04-09-2010, 10:44 AM #20
30+ years ago, I HEARD a lady state that that was why she was pregnant, she got ( at the time ) $50 more dollars a month. This came out of her mouth & into my ear. ( she stated this when asked by my friends ( black ) mother whay she was having another baby that she couldn't afford....My friends family was poor, but they worked & weren't on welfare.
Its one way to start..there are many more...
04-09-2010, 12:14 PM #21
Pregnant Welfare mom with 5 kids to 5 different fathers complaining to my wife that they (the State of TX) needs to find future father number 6 and make him pay support because she is having trouble making her rent and car payment. Wife suggested that she may want to stop having kids if she was having problems paying bills. Welfare mom started screaming that it is her "right" to have as many kids as she wants. Welfare mom goes to Austin, files a complaint and wife is reprimanded and nearly loses her job. Thanks to our system of enabling these people to pop kids out one after another, TX probably has at least 6 more Democrat voters.Avatar is a tribute to my Great Grandfather, Andrew Stewart. This pin was one of his advertisements for his heating and plumbing business. I never knew him but must of inherited his love of things mechanical since I am the only blue collar worker in the family
04-09-2010, 04:19 PM #22"When the people find they can vote themselves money,that will herald the end of the republic" - Benjamin Franklin
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force;like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action"- George Washington
04-09-2010, 06:45 PM #23
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04-09-2010, 07:53 PM #25
I can not say that this is an example of social economics since there is no other country where having children with multiple non supporting fathers is rewarded by the government.
Why there was no criticism of this abuse before Obama came to the picture?
It is been going on through republican and democratic watch alike.
04-09-2010, 08:12 PM #26"Time to nut up or shut up!" Tallahassee - Zombieland