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  1. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by azzad View Post
    That would then become more expensive then the loytech option as I would have to supply either a pc or some sort of touchscreen as well.

    What customers do you have that don't already have a PC with a web browser? That's all they need to access the Jace.

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    Goverment networks mostly that are all very touchy regarding access etc.

    So it has to be stand alone.

    Dazza

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    Come on the L touchscreen isn't that expensive, buy the smaller one!

    BTW - all we either need to move this thread to pro or cut the specific price info out. The other thing is at this point I think we've truly high-jacked NINAX's thread, hopefully he's sitting back laughing at the debate he triggered!

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    Quote Originally Posted by azzad View Post
    TThe interface has to be simple to use and allow access to the couple of things required, preferablly bolted to the wall and nothing else, the loytech touchscreen would be ideal if I could get them at a better price.

    Dazza
    If you want something super simple/basic to toggle some setpoints or do some on/offs than look at:
    http://hrw.hk/index_files/Controls/H...0HPD0460BN.zip

    you program it via hyper terminal. I think easyio does bacnet mstp, you need that for this LCD.
    Anyway, basic LCD with a few buttons and decent functionality, it may do the trick for you.

    good luck.

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    tridium website

    I was looking around on the Tridium site and was watching the video of the first LEED building in the middle east. They used EasyIO.
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    What about an small industrial HMI with onboard Modbus?

    Advantech have stuff like that...Ocean Controls used to have one...there'd be others.
    1 + 1 = 3 ( *** for very large values of 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by crab master View Post
    Come on the L touchscreen isn't that expensive, buy the smaller one!
    I must admit I havent looked for awhile but last time I enquired it wasnt doable.

    The Industrial HMI were in the same price bracket as Loytech.

    I will check out the HRW product.

    And now I will stop hijacking.

    Dazza
    Last edited by azzad; 10-07-2010 at 12:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatrixTransform View Post
    ...Hmm, are you sure you have a handle all your licensing requirements and costs???
    What does 801+ have to do with LINX servers? Nothing if you don't want it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azzad View Post
    Goverment networks mostly that are all very touchy regarding access etc. So it has to be stand alone.
    Dazza
    For the feature set the LVIS touch panel is significantly less $/point than the competition. Maybe the "problem" is that LVIS has more points, more alarms, more schedules, more trends, action items, triggers, email, VNC server, mathematical objects and animations. What happens with touch panels is you want to always do "one more thing". LVIS does the "one more thing" without Windows OS issues. It just works.

    We sell a ton of them. Especially on government jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sysint View Post
    For the feature set the LVIS touch panel is significantly less $/point than the competition. Maybe the "problem" is that LVIS has more points, more alarms, more schedules, more trends, action items, triggers, email, VNC server, mathematical objects and animations. What happens with touch panels is you want to always do "one more thing". LVIS does the "one more thing" without Windows OS issues. It just works.

    We sell a ton of them. Especially on government jobs.
    The fact that it does all of the above is great and I certainly think it is good value for money but it is way over the top in features for what my clients are looking for.

    They dont want trends, action items, triggers, email, vnc server, math, animations, they just want to view several units status and access a schedule occasionally and maybe tweak a setpoint from time to time.

    Dazza

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    Quote Originally Posted by XcelTech View Post
    I feel like I am watching a political debate for presidency.
    Nice avatar, become a professional member so you can get pms, I work in Baton Rouge also.
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    very soon it is you that will be pwned

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    They dont want trends, action items, triggers, email, vnc server, math, animations, they just want to view several units status and access a schedule occasionally and maybe tweak a setpoint from time to time.
    L-WEB project for a smart phone maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azzad View Post
    The fact that it does all of the above is great and I certainly think it is good value for money but it is way over the top in features for what my clients are looking for. They dont want....
    Dazza
    Really? Then why do you sell them Tridium, VI, Plexus, etc... (you get the point)? Facts are it does the same thing the web servers do for consistency. However, I acquiesce that some people will want something cheap and risk needing to know multiple products to get varying degrees of "job done" rather than sticking to a plan and doing a couple things really well. Facts are your labor is the bigger cost.... every time. This includes the soft costs of support and product reliability. Some people actually bought Yugos and they did manage to get people around for awhile.

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