So we know who Jesus is~~~Who is the devil

[bootlen]

okay, now that we seem to be completely off topic and I seem to be more confused than ever (nothing new there 'eh)

did you guys ever get around to actually figuring out who the devil is?

Yep. Posts 8 and 9.

[air2spare]

If you don't know who God is or even believe in him then I don't see the relevance of knowing who's the devil

[scrogdog]

SCROG!!!!

Where ya been, brudder?

Lurking, my friend.

Believe it or not, it is taking some doing to get back in the mindet, I guess you could say, to do what we do here.

[scrogdog]

You're taking someone elses words for evolution being fact. You can no more prove your theories than anyone arguing their faith. Evolution has some gaps so huge that it takes faith to believe it. Your religion (evolution) is just as objectionable as anyone elses.

No I'm not, since evolution is based on things I can see for myself. Meaning, the hallmark of science. Repeatable TESTING. And mountains of backing evidence.

Proof? Lol evolution was established by OBSERVATION, before the science part even began. See... science explains observations and facts, it doesn't create them.

Show me a religion with even a SHRED of repeatable observation or testing that demonstrates anything divine, and then you might be close to a comparison. Otherwise, your claim is laughably weak, I'm afraid. There is nothing religious about science since it is based on observation and testing. Religions are based on blind faith and untestable claims.

[k-fridge]

Lurking, my friend.

Believe it or not, it is taking some doing to get back in the mindet, I guess you could say, to do what we do here.

As I recall, you had some tragedy to deal with. Hope all is as well as can be expected.

Welcome back.

[scrogdog]

And seriously, you didn't answer the question. Why are there still apes and monkeys? Either they evolved and continue to do so or they did not evolve and continue to not do so.

Boot, with all respect, you need to read my reply again with your glasses on.

Monkees and apes evolved and continue to evolve just as man did and does. However, there is no presupposition that all Hominds will develop higher intelligence. Darwin's theory, in fact, would prevent that in the same way that all birds will not evolve in to a single species of bird nor will all sharks evolve in to a smarter shark. Things don't work that way. In fact, as man moves in to the stars, he will eventually evolve in to new species that will adapt to new environments and will be unable to interbreed with the parent species (us).

Will that be an improvement? Depends on point of view doesn't it? Some would see it as de-evolution in a sense.

Again, you would know this if you even bothered to actually READ the theories that you are so fond of spewing upon.

[scrogdog]

As I recall, you had some tragedy to deal with. Hope all is as well as can be expected.

Welcome back.

Yes, as well as can be expected. Thanks.

[jmac00]

No I'm not, since evolution is based on things I can see for myself. Meaning, the hallmark of science. Repeatable TESTING. And mountains of backing evidence.

Proof? Lol evolution was established by OBSERVATION, before the science part even began. See... science explains observations and facts, it doesn't create them.

Show me a religion with even a SHRED of repeatable observation or testing that demonstrates anything divine, and then you might be close to a comparison. Otherwise, your claim is laughably weak, I'm afraid. There is nothing religious about science since it is based on observation and testing. Religions are based on blind faith and untestable claims.

Buddism, or is it Hindu? But my exwife was reincarnated as an ice cube

[timebuilder]

God has designed His realtionship with Man to be based on faith, and not proof.

In 1 Corinthians, Chapter 2, we find this nugget:

14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

And we also find in John 20:


24But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
25The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
26And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God. 29Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

[ga-hvac-tech]

At John 20:17 Jesus told Mary to relate to the bretheren that "I ascend unto my Father and your Father and to my God and your God"{KJV}.
Scripturally, Who was this being that occupies a position of reverance even to Jesus?

There is a Scripture where it is stated that those who believe and follow Christ are called the 'sons of God' (note that mostly in traditional translations the male reference to humans means the whole human race... hence reference to 'sons of God would include 'daughters of God' also).

So Jesus is definitely the Son of God... and if anyone is a professing Christian (believer in Christ and follower of Christ), then they are a son/daughter of God also. Remember that God is a Spirit being... and it is our Spirits that are sons/daughters of God...

BTW: Our Spirits are what lives for eternity with God in Heaven... On this earth our Spirits temporarily occupy a bio-degradable 'earthsuit'.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Fine. Put all the elements found in a human, subject those elements to the proper atmosphere, mix them for as long as you choose. Report back only when you find a living human being has emerged.

BTW, get yer own dirt.

Yeah, I remember that story.... Good one Boots!

[acmanko]

its happening already boys

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0804123045.htm

now if we can get all the holdouts on board , this promising technology will become a reality in our liftime.

Then maybe some of you can live to be 600 ,like moses

[ga-hvac-tech]

To say that a plant adapts to its environment; or an animal grows a heaver coat of fur for the winter is NOT the same as a monkey becoming a human...

There is a HUGE difference.

I think the THEORY of evolution is mostly a bunch of folks who's mothers MADE them go to church when they were young... and they are still rebelling in their childish warped minds. If they would grow up and get over the rebellious attitude, they might see God... but then they might not ever grow up.