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    "they" are watching you..but only 42 times so its ok

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100220/D9E04NVG0.html
    local administrators thinking they are above the law again

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    Skool districts computers...aint sposed to be taken off school grounds....

    I dont see a problem with the web cams being activated to find em....or to check and see if they have been taken off school grounds.
    Too bad they dont have some kind of thermite package inside the computer....so that when stolen or taken home without the schools permission...the school could activate the thermite device hopefully ending up with the residence where the computer is located being burned to the ground.

    If they had to disclose the software then the thiefs or folks using them without school permission could simply tape over the webcam.
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    still violates privacy laws if they take pictures of inside the home. Also its a gov agency, full disclosure about he software should be in written form. If you had company laptops and where told do not take them in the house leave them in the van...and they activated the cam without you knowledge you would be ok with that? Take a gander at your daughter or wife? What if you put on your health form u dont smoke and they had a pic of you smoking inside your home?
    would u be ok with that?

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    I knew kids who went to Harriton. A lot of really rich kids. Maybe the richest public school in PA. My school, one of the richest private schools in PA, was about 20 minutes away. Why they didn't buy their own computers is a mystery to me.

    The school owns the laptops. The students and parents signed some sort of privacy waiver, I'm sure. They just didn't know it might apply to this feature.

    The scuttlebutt is that this kid was suspected of being an unlicensed pharmacist, and that's why the admin turned on the webcam.
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    If they hadn't of taken ( stolen) the laptop off school property, then the only picture taken would have been the classroom it was suppose to be in...


    Your taxes had to pay for this kind of educational tool...Don't you want a little bit of accountability for it.??
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    A friend of mine is a computer expert, has his own business fixing computers. It's not just the software that school system put on, people can hack your system and turn your webcam and microphone on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowirenut View Post
    still violates privacy laws if they take pictures of inside the home. Also its a gov agency, full disclosure about he software should be in written form. If you had company laptops and where told do not take them in the house leave them in the van...and they activated the cam without you knowledge you would be ok with that? Take a gander at your daughter or wife? What if you put on your health form u dont smoke and they had a pic of you smoking inside your home?
    would u be ok with that?

    But yellowirenut...... I am an honest and trustworthy person. If work told me not to take the company laptop into my home then yes... I would leave it in the van... And I sure wouldnt have the wife or daughter...or son....lol... prancing around in front of it.

    I see what you are saying..... but I just look at it differently....

    People broke the rules.... yes even the school....

    If I was the school I would just end the whole laptop program.... get the kids abacuses or something.... or some playskool computers...
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    According to the article all of the students are issued laptops, it is implied that the students are allowed to take them home.
    The district said that the system was used only to locate lost, missing or stolen computers. Was Blake Robbins’ computer reported as lost, missing or stolen? If not why was the camera turned on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyM View Post
    According to the article all of the students are issued laptops, it is implied that the students are allowed to take them home.
    The district said that the system was used only to locate lost, missing or stolen computers. Was Blake Robbins’ computer reported as lost, missing or stolen? If not why was the camera turned on?
    From what I have heard, it was turned on because of the allegations of misconduct, as a part of an investigation. It was the subsequent reprimand that brought this to light.
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    I fully support any organization being able to keep up with its' computers (or any other property that was no doubt purchased with tax dollars) and to prevent theft. As for the students not being told that the computers contained the software, I personally don't think it should make any difference.

    What I don't understand, however, is why cameras were activated at all. This may well be invasion of privacy. Besides, even if a clear picture of the room that the computer is in is available, unless the person viewing the picture was able to recognize the room, it is totally useless.

    Or could it simply be that this kid was caught in the act? In the article, he calls it "his" computer. Was the tracking program installed on his personal home computer or does he think that, because he made it home with a school computer, it automatically becomes his property?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixacr View Post
    In the article, he calls it "his" computer. Was the tracking program installed on his personal home computer or does he think that, because he made it home with a school computer, it automatically becomes his property?
    I think (or at least hope) was referring to it as "his" the same way u may point to your work van and say..."my van needs and oil change"
    I am sure they could track them using GPS of some kind..its the Gov having full operation of a camera in a home that has my panties in a bunch.

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    I agree with the camera use being, at the very least, questionable.

    On closer examination, more information about how the school and the students use the computers would be needed to make an accurate statement about that.
    It's a mechanical device, designed by humans, built by humans and operated by humans. What could possibly go wrong?

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