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  1. #1
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    New California Title-24 HVAC change-out rules/procedures

    Starting January 1, 2010 the new 2008 Title-24 Building Efficiency Standards took effect in California.

    The new HVAC change-out rules are significantly more restrictive than the old 2005 Title-24 energy code.

    I've posted a step by step walk-thru of the new rules on our website

    click here

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    Here is another posting explaining the new Title-24 refrigerant charge verification procedures which took effect January 1, 2010 in California.

    click here

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    What percentage of retros pull permits? The twenty years I was there none.
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    New California Title-24 HVAC change-out rules

    Do you work in California?

    Permitted HVAC change-out work is pretty common around here.
    Also there are a number of utility sponsored incentives programs that required permits to participate. And enforcement is getting much tighter with the new energy code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecworks View Post
    Do you work in California?
    Not now, But my family did from 1957 to 1990 in Riverside. I was involved from 1970 to 1990.

    Permitted HVAC change-out work is pretty common around here.
    Also there are a number of utility sponsored incentives programs that required permits to participate. And enforcement is getting much tighter with the new energy code.
    I had a good friend call me last year about having his 20 year old 4 ton package gas/elect unit changed out with a new Rheem high eff unit. He chose a contractor that has been there for thirty years with a good reputation. I gave my blessing FWIW and the job was done ( knowing that title 24 would require a duct test and load calc). The next time I saw and talked to him he told me they they replaced the system with a 5 ton as it would cool better ( no duct testing or modes were done).
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    Is there anything that state does not regulate to death.....other than illegal border crossings???

    No wonder they're broke beyond comprehension.

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    We are a TOTAL MESS here.
    I even have to pull a permit before i can fart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbird View Post
    We are a TOTAL MESS here.
    I even have to pull a permit before i can fart.
    LOL, does that require a manual J or would that be a manual D
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    No wonder there is a mass migration from that state. Why do the people in CA keep voting these freaks in? I would pack up and leave at this point. Yikes.

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    Manual D for sure. Got to watch that high SP.
    I should have left years ago.To old now,already got my coffen paid for,.

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    More California HVAC rules

    January 1, 2010 ushered in another new California code requirement that is part of the Title-24 Building Efficiency Standards, ASHRAE 62.2-2007

    here's the breakdown

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    Quote Originally Posted by im4snow2000 View Post
    Is there anything that state does not regulate to death.....other than illegal border crossings???

    No wonder they're broke beyond comprehension.
    Maybe if we are lucky they will regulate themselves out of existence.

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