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    Democrats stop national health care bill!

    That's right. With all of the rhetoric that President Obama is spewing out about how Republicans won't cowtow to every aspect of his Socialized health care reform, it was Democrats that shot down our government's doing something to help all Americans be insured;
    President George Bush's health care reform program was presented to the public in Feb 1992.
    http://www.faqs.org/abstracts/Health...alth-care.html

    And then again, President W Bush, who is constantly being criticized by leftists, also implemented health care reforms. Democrats have been getting elected for half a century on promises of health care reform, but it was Republicans that actually did something;
    With the enactment of the Medicare Moderniza­tion Act of 2003, President Bush has presided over the largest entitlement expansion since the Great Society.
    http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/bg1804.cfm
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    repubs are just as statist as some of the demos. i remember when gwh bush was pro abortion.
    "When the people find they can vote themselves money,that will herald the end of the republic" - Benjamin Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by smittyii View Post
    repubs are just as statist as some of the demos. i remember when gwh bush was pro abortion.
    Supporting the morning after pill with a prescription is not exactly being pro-abortion.
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    Quote:
    With the enactment of the Medicare Moderniza*tion Act of 2003, President Bush has presided over the largest entitlement expansion since the Great Society.
    Spending on par with what the Democrats wanted to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
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    Spending on par with what the Democrats wanted to do.
    That bill was no where near what the Democrats want to do or spend. The point is that the Democrats did not support a program that they had been using for decades as a promise to get votes because it was a Republican president that would have been given credit for it.

    The point is that President Obama and leftist Democrats are hypocites to the enth degree by claiming that Republicans are the party of "no" when it was the Democrats who refused a Republican health care solution at least twice in the past two decades.

    The point is that if Democrats can't Socialize the U.S., they don't give a crap about the health care of Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Supporting the morning after pill with a prescription is not exactly being pro-abortion.
    no i mean George Herbert Walker Bush, in the 1960's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    That bill was no where near what the Democrats want to do or spend. The point is that the Democrats did not support a program that they had been using for decades as a promise to get votes because it was a Republican president that would have been given credit for it.

    But of course, it would take a good man to give credit where it is due in politics.

    The point is that President Obama and leftist Democrats are hypocites to the enth degree by claiming that Republicans are the party of "no" when it was the Democrats who refused a Republican health care solution at least twice in the past two decades.

    But of course, it would take a good man to give credit where it is due in politics.

    The point is that if Democrats can't Socialize the U.S., they don't give a crap about the health care of Americans.
    But is it not the point of socializing health care, to make sure everyone has access to health care? You forget, liberals do the things they do because they think it will be better for society (Oh yeah we are talking about Democrats here not liberals.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    But is it not the point of socializing health care, to make sure everyone has access to health care? You forget, liberals do the things they do because they think it will be better for society (Oh yeah we are talking about Democrats here not liberals.)
    Why are you always an apologist for U.S. Socialists? What don't you understand about the vast differences between the Republican health care plan and the Democrat's Socialist plan?

    The Republicans have three times now propossed a way to better the health care system in a way that would not Socialize our country but would help millions of Americans for much less then any Democratic plan would.

    Why in the world should the Republicans give credit to the Democrats for devising a health care system that would Socialize our nation? Democrats keep chanting that the country needs health care reform and Republicans agree. Democrats only want to help Americans if they can also turn the U.S. Socialist. Republicans are proposing a plan that will help Americans without destroying our basic form of government, and for a whole lot less money.

    I must assume that being from a country where the subjects of have always been under control of a ruling government, that you just cannot understand what it means to be an American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Why are you always an apologist for U.S. Socialists? What don't you understand about the vast differences between the Republican health care plan and the Democrat's Socialist plan?

    The Republicans have three times now propossed a way to better the health care system in a way that would not Socialize our country but would help millions of Americans for much less then any Democratic plan would.

    Why in the world should the Republicans give credit to the Democrats for devising a health care system that would Socialize our nation? Democrats keep chanting that the country needs health care reform and Republicans agree. Democrats only want to help Americans if they can also turn the U.S. Socialist. Republicans are proposing a plan that will help Americans without destroying our basic form of government, and for a whole lot less money.

    I must assume that being from a country where the subjects of have always been under control of a ruling government, that you just cannot understand what it means to be an American.
    Actually I am not apologizing for US socialists. I shake my head every time they do something stupid. I have seen bits of both plans and I understand their are differences.

    I just commented on what you said that the Democrats do not care about health care. They probably care as much as Republicans, they just have a different vision. I never said which one is right or wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    Actually I am not apologizing for US socialists. I shake my head every time they do something stupid. I have seen bits of both plans and I understand their are differences.

    I just commented on what you said that the Democrats do not care about health care. They probably care as much as Republicans, they just have a different vision. I never said which one is right or wrong.
    If Democrats cared about Americans having better health plans, they would not be completely ignoring the Republicans compromise to health care. The only reason the Democrats are even using health care as an issue is to create a more Socialistic government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    If Democrats cared about Americans having better health plans, they would not be completely ignoring the Republicans compromise to health care. The only reason the Democrats are even using health care as an issue is to create a more Socialistic government.
    But they do care, they just think their plan is the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    But they do care, they just think their plan is the best.
    Do you even pay attention to what others who don't agree with you post?

    How can doing nothing for Americans be best? Democrats are using health care to propogate Socialism, that is all. Republicans have a plan that helps Americans without creating a Socialist government and without costing anywhere near as much.

    Democrats absolutely refuse to do anything for American citizens unless it fulfills their political agenda. In the case of health care, the Democratic agenda is to Socialize the U.S. government. If the Democrats cannot succeed in Socializing the U.S. goernment, then they won't do anything to help the American citizens.
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    Hate to break it to you but a government is a social institution. It is not like the Democrats are going to socialize it more.

    The Democrats are not refuse to do something about health care for American citizens, they just found that the deck of cards have just been shuffled and they no longer have an automatic winning hand. All the deal making has to start again with a whole bigger field of players. The likelihood of getting them all to agree is probably nil now.

    More than likely you guys will be still talking about reform ten years from now.

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