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    Global Warming is now dead last on the list of Priorities for Americans

    Check the list of priorities and you will find GW a well deserved place on the bottom of the list. I wonder when the liberals will ever get the message. We are not drinking their kool aide anymore in order to destroy our economy and waste money for nothing. Check it out. Thank you very much

    http://people-press.org/report/584/p...riorities-2010.

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    Glen the bad news is after the top three, the next three are all entitlement programs. Americans sure do love their socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pneuma View Post
    Glen the bad news is after the top three, the next three are all entitlement programs. Americans sure do love their socialism.
    Funny you say that. We all pay for SS and medicare through payroll taxes and education through property and sale taxes. I am concerned about how my tax dollars are spent or wasted. Nothing sinister or socialist about that. Heath care ranks only 8th on the list and government aid to the poor 9th.

    Nice try at putting a liberal socialist spin on this article. The economy, jobs, deficit reduction and terrorism all rank higher. I would say this shows most Americans are conservative not socialist. Strange how you cannot see the obvious. I hope this in site helps you understand. Thank you very much.
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Funny you say that. We all pay for SS and medicare through payroll taxes and education through property and sale taxes. I am concerned about how my tax dollars are spent or wasted. Nothing sinister or socialist about that. Heath care ranks only 8th on the list and government aid to the poor 9th.

    Nice try at putting a liberal socialist spin on this article. The economy, jobs, deficit reduction and terrorism all rank higher. I would say this shows most Americans are conservative not socialist. Strange how you cannot see the obvious. I hope this in site helps you understand. Thank you very much.
    Wait, we all pay for something through taxation, that not all of us actually use, as in education, but we do it for the good of SOCIETY and you don't see that as socialism? So how do you define socialism then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pneuma View Post
    Wait, we all pay for something through taxation, that not all of us actually use, as in education, but we do it for the good of SOCIETY and you don't see that as socialism? So how do you define socialism then?
    The question was what were people concerned about not what they liked or though was a good socialist government program. SS and medicare have been screwed up from get go and education for the last 40 years. Each one could be a topic for long conversation.

    Now health care and government aid to the poor we are not been directly taxed for at this time and are not as big a concern. So if you believe that been concerned about a government program means that you love it and want more socialism then you are mistaken big time.

    Go ahead and vote for socialism and the Democrats but the rest of us have had enough. Thank you very much.
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    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    The question was what were people concerned about not what they liked or though was a good socialist government program. SS and medicare have been screwed up from get go and education for the last 40 years. Each one could be a topic for long conversation.

    Now health care and government aid to the poor we are not been directly taxed for at this time and are not as big a concern. So if you believe that been concerned about a government program means that you love it and want more socialism then you are mistaken big time.

    Go ahead and vote for socialism and the Democrats but the rest of us have had enough. Thank you very much.
    Here is what the article says. "More than six-in-ten Americans say securing the Social Security system (66%) and securing the Medicare system (63%) should be top priorities for Obama and Congress. About as many (65%) say that improving the educational system should be a top policy priority. For all three items, public evaluations are not significantly different than they were one year ago."

    I'm just trying to have a conversation, don't feel so attacked. The word socialsim has never been so tossed around so much here lately and those who toss it around like it's the black plague and ignore the fact that we do have socialistic programs and people like them.

    The federal highway system is one big social distribution system. It makes our country competative.

    We have socialized defense, socialized police and fire departments.

    The idea of having a social medical system is one that deserves debate, but to think that it will cast us into some new socialistic territory is wrong, it will make us more socialists than we are now, but have no doubt, we are already socialistic and as the pole points out, people like it!

    What I would rather do is debate health care interms of the human spirit that is so great in this country. We don't let people bleed in the streets, they can get help. We shoud not let people lose thier houses to cancer bankruptcy or let kids suffer because their folks can't afford to get them care. These things got lost on the debate and I blame the dems for sure, Reed and pilosey are idiots and O, just sat there and watched instead of leading.

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    Just wanted to through in my 2 cents here....

    Social security & medicare were not begun as socialist programs....
    These were programs designed to allow people to pay into a retirement plan & into a future ( when we get old ) medical plan..
    We were suppose to pay in some each month / year / paycheck & the government was to INVEST our money, make more money & then pay it back to us when we became of age....

    But...because of the ABUSE of the programs ( I bet mostly by democrats ) allowing non-paying & non-aged people to become recipients ( money that THEY didn'y invest ), it became socialistic....

    My position is that no government, local, state, or federal should be involved in any business that does not EQUALLY involve EVERY person under their jurisdiction....period.
    Everyone drives on roads. Everyone, who lives long enough, will get old & will need medical attention & some kind of a retirment income. Every person in the US needs defending ( by the fed military or state / local police ). Even protection from a fire is a universal concept ( covers everyone who has a fire )

    What I am trying to say here is that socialism is when a person, who does nothing for it, GETS IT. If a person doesn't pay into SS & Medi, they shouldn't get anything... If a person doesn't pay taxes, they shouldn't be able to drive, covered by fireman / police, etc....
    Now, if each of our governments ( fed,state,local ) felt this way, then we would be a great country, with less taxes, better schools, etc..
    But alas, they do not...it IS the socialising of ALL of our programs that tends to ruin the idea from which that program was created.....

    Richard

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