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View Poll Results: IS THIS "GOOD WORKMANSHIP" WHICH YOU WOULD BE PROUD TO CALL YOUR OWN

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  1. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by MLHARRISFL View Post
    A local A/C contractor installed this ductwork. Ducts are lying on top of one another without support. In one case the coolant line is routed THROUGH a duct.

    My question is how this contractor considers this GOOD WORKMANSHIP?
    Im confuse.....Coolant lines? is this a new system where anti-freeze is been used , I have seen and work with brine (salty water) on industrial applications,,, but in residential?? love the ductwork, someone who has worked in AZ probably did it, no doubt about it , but still the coolants line thing is bugging me...

  2. #15
    Ok Guys, I called it a coolant line in error. Reason, I am the homeowner, not a HVAC professional like yourselves. This line runs from the air handler to the outside compressor and I was under the impression coolant.......Freon R22 runs through it. I could still be wrong. It is a big copper line and I thought the coolant ran through it.

    I took the contractor to court yesterday. No verdict yet, the judge will mail it to both parties. Progrnosis? Contractor will get nailed for two reasons. 1. he failed to pull a building permit after including the cost of the permit in his contract figures to the homeowner. He says it must have slipped by his office staff. 2. After the homowner notified him of potential problems, the contractor looked at pictures sent by the homeowner but failed to actually visit the installation for himself before telling the homowner there was "nothing wrong" with the installation. 3. Contractor refused to do any further work with the homeowner because he testified the homeowner was RUDE to his staff and technicians. Oh My, that's a contract breaker right there I'd say. I thought it was a beach of warantee of workmanship. The judge thinks its more a breach of contract. BYT, I failed to mention that during a prior switchout of the air handler the contractor left the old air handler and ductwork shoved off to the side in the attic crawl space. He testified it must have been hot in the attic do the installers to a short cut. YOU THINK? I will revisit the formum with the final verdict announcement.

  3. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by MLHARRISFL View Post
    Ok Guys, I called it a coolant line in error. Reason, I am the homeowner, not a HVAC professional like yourselves. This line runs from the air handler to the outside compressor and I was under the impression coolant.......Freon R22 runs through it. I could still be wrong. It is a big copper line and I thought the coolant ran through it.

    I took the contractor to court yesterday. No verdict yet, the judge will mail it to both parties. Progrnosis? Contractor will get nailed for two reasons. 1. he failed to pull a building permit after including the cost of the permit in his contract figures to the homeowner. He says it must have slipped by his office staff. 2. After the homowner notified him of potential problems, the contractor looked at pictures sent by the homeowner but failed to actually visit the installation for himself before telling the homowner there was "nothing wrong" with the installation. 3. Contractor refused to do any further work with the homeowner because he testified the homeowner was RUDE to his staff and technicians. Oh My, that's a contract breaker right there I'd say. I thought it was a beach of warantee of workmanship. The judge thinks its more a breach of contract. BYT, I failed to mention that during a prior switchout of the air handler the contractor left the old air handler and ductwork shoved off to the side in the attic crawl space. He testified it must have been hot in the attic do the installers to a short cut. YOU THINK? I will revisit the formum with the final verdict announcement.

    Ok Mate.. we all know what you meant by coolant lines, thanks for the professional thing , after what they did to your house you still call us professionals,, lol,, any ways sadly in my state AZ that kind of work is very common, considering folks are now paying $2300 for a package heat pump full install, hack contractors are cutting all 4 corners just to make 50 bucks profit, Good luck ,sue this hacker, take them to the licensing board that will teach them.

  4. #17
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    Can you post pics of the correct install, to compare?

  5. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by artdavila View Post
    Can you post pics of the correct install, to compare?
    You may find pics to compare on the Wall of shame and Wall of pride just below jobs, there is a lot of stuff,, may take some time.

  6. #19
    [IMG][/IMG]The contractor in Bradenton who did the original job was Bacarr A/C and Heating, Inc.
    The contractor who did the new install is Totally Cool A/C, LLC.
    One pic of the new install is attached. I think??? the upload was different.

  7. #20
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    That was the laugh I needed for today.

  8. #21
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    I would NOT have installed the ductwork as pictured on the "corrected" repair as shown. You are allowed 1/2 in sag for 4 or 5 feet. The hanging from the roof line peak is wrong in my opinion.
    Doug

  9. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger View Post
    I would NOT have installed the ductwork as pictured on the "corrected" repair as shown. You are allowed 1/2 in sag for 4 or 5 feet. The hanging from the roof line peak is wrong in my opinion.
    Ya, but strapping up like that is better than some other trade coming in and squashing them. Although, yes, I would've placed my straps every 3 feet at least.

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