Unbelievable.
Some people should not be allowed to touch flex duct, here is a perfect example of one of them.
Can you believe this guy had the nerve to call the state inspector about this commercial building being out of balance, blaming it on my installation of the kitchen exhaust hood? The fresh air makeup that he installed is a completely different hilarious story but I was amazed that he had the nerve to call the inspector with this job.....
This one even shows what a fine job the residential electrician did on his part of the job.....
Unbelievable.
Some people should not be allowed to touch flex duct, here is a perfect example of one of them.
We've been doing so much,for so long,with so little, that now we can do almost anything, with nothing at all.
I don't get it - what's wrong with that?
Funny thing is the state inspector isn't going to do anything except for the wiring not finaled in a box.
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
- Alexis de Toqueville, 1835
I think the duct guy and the sparky must be related.Originally posted by DeltaT
Funny thing is the state inspector isn't going to do anything except for the wiring not finaled in a box.
We've been doing so much,for so long,with so little, that now we can do almost anything, with nothing at all.
Looks good, nice job.....What is that again????
An abortion gone wrong!Originally posted by workinlate
Looks good, nice job.....What is that again????
Its people like that that are going to make flex illegal
They must have learned their trade here in Phoenix,Az!
that is how a lot of the cookie cutter homes are done.
Get in, get out. Use all of the flex, no strapping and don't bring any of it back!
I can't believe the sh*te I see.
Thats not very nice at all. My husband is an RSI grad and I've seen his flex duct work, and it's quite good thanks, not to mention I'm only in phase 2 at RSI and can do a better job than that.. play nicely.Originally posted by PaysonHVAC
They must have learned their trade here in Phoenix,Az!
that is how a lot of the cookie cutter homes are done.
Get in, get out. Use all of the flex, no strapping and don't bring any of it back!
I can't believe the sh*te I see.
I HAVE done a better job that that, I helped hubby install a couple of units for our landlord. Not all Phx tech are idiots, just the mass majority of them.
But then again, when I finish I'm being smart about it and going low-temp.
Ms. Queen,
I don't think Payson was trying to knock all Phoenix folks - I can relate first hand as to how frustrating it is to go on job after job that some hack has installed like this or worse. It's just something you see especially when there's a "mass majority of them" that are idiots. As you can see, we have our fair share of them here in NE Oklahoma as well.
I wish you the very best in this trade and believe you will be happy with the refrigeration side of things as well.
And to think, my instructor didn't like my answer to the question "What is a technicians most important tool?" To which I answered...A BRAIN. The Book answer was Multimeter, which of course I had as a very close second I stick by my first answer for reasons pictured above!Originally posted by rdj357
Ms. Queen,
I don't think Payson was trying to knock all Phoenix folks - I can relate first hand as to how frustrating it is to go on job after job that some hack has installed like this or worse. It's just something you see especially when there's a "mass majority of them" that are idiots. As you can see, we have our fair share of them here in NE Oklahoma as well.
I wish you the very best in this trade and believe you will be happy with the refrigeration side of things as well.
I think I'll like the field as well, hubby LOVES it, but the idea of being on a roof when it's 110+ outside is not appealing to me, and being low temp that won't happen all the time, but I'll be up there on occasion.
As for Payson's comment, I realize he more than likely didn't mean all of the ummm, folks (the hacks can NOT be classified as a tech) but still, there are some excellent techs down here, and it's unfair to quasi place them in the hack category. As I am sure you can agree to that.
Yep, I can appreciate that.
I can also appreciate the fact that it doesn't reach 110 deg. here! We can, however, say it's a WET heat with high humidity to go along with our 98 deg days!! BTW, those rack houses and remotes in the alley next to the black asphalt are pretty warm too.
I seen 1 of them on National Geographic. Better kill it before it lays eggs up there.
I WONDER DOES THE A-COIL FREEZE UP DURING THE SUMMER AND DOES IT RAIN INSIDE?
Well, there are 4 systems worth of ductwork in that attic. No, they haven't had any moisture problems in the building, the biggest problem is extremely uneven heat/cool and insufficient fresh air ventilation.Originally posted by topdog
I WONDER DOES THE A-COIL FREEZE UP DURING THE SUMMER AND DOES IT RAIN INSIDE?
I agree. Likely they're the same person! I've seen this before - the business owner doing work him/herself to save ca$h!Originally posted by a\c don
I think the duct guy and the sparky must be related.Originally posted by DeltaT
Funny thing is the state inspector isn't going to do anything except for the wiring not finaled in a box.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Balystic
As much as I'd like to agree, this was done by an HVAC contractor in my area. The electrical was also done by a small contractor. Scary....I agree. Likely they're the same person! I've seen this before - the business owner doing work him/herself to save ca$h! [/B]
- Robert
[QUOTE]Originally posted by icequeen72
[B]Thats not very nice at all. My husband is an RSI grad and I've seen his flex duct work, and it's quite good thanks, not to mention I'm only in phase 2 at RSI and can do a better job than that.. play nicely.Originally posted by PaysonHVAC
They must have learned their trade here in Phoenix,Az!
that is how a lot of the cookie cutter homes are done.
Get in, get out. Use all of the flex, no strapping and don't bring any of it back!
I can't believe the sh*te I see.
Not Nice, but the truth never is.. I just moved to Phoenix last week, and from what I've seen, it's like Payson tells it. He's not saying everyone is a hack, but if buying a home in a new subdivision, don't be surprised when you go into the attic
Settle down, settle down. :-P
I was NOT refering to service technicians at all, even though there are PLENTY of them HACKS in Pheonix as well!
I was refering to the UNEDUCATED (meaning, they didn't even go to RSI), who install for the mass produced, cookie cutter homes. I actually work for a company here who has most of them hack installers. I work in a diff department and can't stand going behind half of them!!!
At times I almost want to go back to low temp... I don't get to do it much at all with this company.
Oh, BTW, I hope you have had a chance to get more hands on than what RSI gives you. Because the techs we hire who have had no experience who come straight from school sometimes struggle for a long time. Well, if you're mechanically inclined then you should learn fast. We get guys who were not previously into electrical, electronics, mechanics, etc who suddenly decided to go to refer school. Then all the screwed up installs make it harder than how it looks in the class room. In Phoenix, the new home inspectors don't enforce the 30" of work space" or any other rules. Sometimes the coils and furnaces are flipped, facing the wall! These inspectors must get paid off by the big builders.
Good luck, hope it works out. Watch for them HACKS who were there before you!
[Edited by PaysonHVAC on 03-01-2004 at 08:01 PM]