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    Media prints proof Trump is a fraud , did you see it?

    Former president Bill Clinton had a private telephone conversation in late spring with Donald Trump at the same time that the billionaire investor and reality-television star was nearing a decision to run for the White House, according to associates of both men.

    Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.

    Clinton’s personal office in New York confirmed that the call occurred in late May, but an aide to Clinton said the 2016 race was never specifically discussed and that it was only a casual chat.

    The talk with Clinton — the spouse of the Democratic presidential front-runner and one of his party’s preeminent political strategists — came just weeks before Trump jumped into the GOP race and surged to the front of the crowded Republican field.

    The revelation of the call comes as many Republicans have begun criticizing Trump for his ties to Democrats, including past financial donations to the Clintons and their charitable foundation.

    Trump took the call from his office in Trump Tower in New York, according to the four allies, who requested anonymity because they are not authorized to speak publicly. The call came as Trump was making a final decision about whether to run, and he was candid about his political ambitions and his potential interest in seeking the White House during the talk, these allies said.

    The 42nd president listened intently and then analyzed Trump’s prospects and his desire to rouse the GOP base, the Trump allies said.

    The tone of the call was informal and Clinton never urged Trump to run, the four people said. Rather, they said, Clinton sounded curious about Trump’s moves toward a presidential bid and told Trump that he was striking a chord with frustrated conservatives and was a rising force on the right.

    One person with knowledge of Clinton’s end of the call said the former president was upbeat and encouraging during the conversation, which occurred at a time Trump was speaking out about GOP politics and his prescriptions for the nation.

    Clinton aides declined to speak on the record about the call, saying the conversation was personal.

    “Mr. Trump reached out to President Clinton a few times. President Clinton returned his call in late May,” a Clinton employee said. “While we don’t make it a practice to discuss the president’s private conversations, we can tell you that the presidential race was not discussed.”

    One Trump adviser said Clinton called Trump, but did not provide specifics about how the call came about.

    Those with knowledge of the call in both camps said it was one of many that Clinton and Trump have had over the years, whether about golf or donations to the Clinton Foundation. But the call in May was considered especially sensitive, coming soon after Hillary Rodham Clinton had declared her own presidential run the month before.

    At the time, Trump was touting a “foolproof” but undisclosed plan to defeat Islamic State terrorists and ramping up his presence on the airwaves, including interviews where he was asked about his donations to the Clinton Foundation. He entered the race June 16.

    Neither side would provide an exact date for the call, but both Bill Clinton’s office and a person close to Trump described it as “late May.”

    Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for the Trump campaign, declined to comment. The campaign of Hillary Clinton did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Trump is a longtime acquaintance of the Clintons, both of whom attended the businessman’s third wedding in 2005. Since Trump entered the presidential race, however, he and Hillary Clinton have increasingly traded barbs.

    She has condemned Trump’s racially charged remarks about Mexican immigrants and tut-tutted about his remark that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is not a war hero.

    “Donald Trump. Finally, a candidate whose hair gets more attention than mine,” Clinton joked at a Democratic dinner in Arkansas in July. “But there’s nothing funny about the hate he is spewing at immigrants and families, and now the insults he has directed at a genuine war hero, Sen. John McCain.”

    That was a rare instance in which Clinton mentioned Trump by name. Also in July, before a largely Hispanic audience, Clinton had this to say:

    “I have just one word for Mr. Trump. Basta!”

    In June, she criticized Trump, without using his name, over his references to Mexican immigrants as rapists and criminals during his June campaign launch speech.

    “A recent entry into the Republican presidential campaign said some very inflammatory things about Mexicans. Everybody should stand up and say that’s not acceptable,” Clinton said in an interview with Nevada political reporter Jon Ralston.

    Clinton demurred when asked to specify to whom she was referring. Instead, she has frequently sought to tie Trump’s views to the broader GOP field.

    “I think he is emblematic,” she said. “I want people to understand it’s not about him — it’s about everybody.”

    Clinton has reserved her sharpest attacks for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and other candidates she has called out by name for their policies on immigration, abortion and other issues.

    For his part, Trump said little about Clinton until recent weeks.

    “Wow, it’s pretty pathetic that Hillary Clinton just blamed me for the horrendous attack that took place in South Carolina,” Trump wrote in a post on Instagram, following that interview. “This is why politicians are just no good. Our country’s in trouble.”

    And on Wednesday, Trump wrote in a Twitter message: “Do you notice that Hillary spews out Jeb’s name as often as possible in order to give him status? She knows Trump is her worst nightmare.”

    That’s a long way from the cordial, even cozy, relationship between the two when Clinton was a New York senator and Trump was a constituent and supporter.

    At Trump’s 2005 wedding, Hillary Clinton sat in the front row for the ceremony, and Bill Clinton reportedly joined her for festivities later. The Clintons were photographed laughing chummily with Trump and new wife Melania Knauss at the reception, with Bill Clinton clasping Trump’s shoulder.

    Trump also donated to Hillary Clinton’s New York Senate campaigns and to the Clinton Foundation.










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    Wolfstrike, you gonna go with Rand Paul to the end?

    1. Do most Americans smoke pot? Answer: No
    2. Do most Americans want to secretly grow pot in their backyard? Answer: No
    3. Do most Americans want to bang as many hookers as possible? Answer: No
    4. Do most Americans want to vote for somebody who thinks most Americans should be free to do hookers and blow? Answer: No

    "Goofball Paul" as I affectionately call him is just too much like "Goofball Paul" senior IMHO.

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    yes I'm voting for Rand Paul.

    libertarians have always won support from drug people

    the way we're going , prostitution is going to be legal any day now, i'm not going to ignore the best candidate because of a few minor issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfstrike View Post
    yes I'm voting for Rand Paul.

    libertarians have always won support from drug people

    the way we're going , prostitution is going to be legal any day now, i'm not going to ignore the best candidate because of a few minor issues
    I'm glad he stood up for the protection all Americans should have under the 4th amendment. He's right in that he is a different republican.

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    I like rand though i find the ohio governor interesting .

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfstrike View Post
    yes I'm voting for Rand Paul.

    libertarians have always won support from drug people

    the way we're going , prostitution is going to be legal any day now, i'm not going to ignore the best candidate because of a few minor issues
    BS wofie. Trump is what we need and not a Libertarian when it comes to fighting terrorists. America first not the rights of terrorists hiding as Americans. Thank you very much
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    Trump was caught taking orders from Bill Clinton. Trump says , "I talk to a lot of politicians and that conversation was private"

    Trump was caught donating to Hillary's senate campaign , Trump says "i'm buying politicians like all rich people"

    "What services did you buy Mr Trump?"

    "I told Hillary that she had better be at the wedding!" , which covers the fact Trump was caught fraternizing with Hillary Clinton.



    we all have a 12 for an IQ now?



    the dufus on the debate panel knew Trump was a fraud.

    the bimbo on the debate panel knew Trump was a fraud.


    Rand Paul knew Trump was a fraud.



    this madness needs to end

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    Trump got kicked out of the RedState gathering this weekend... over inappropriate comments on the TV debate Thursday.

    Now lets think about this for a minute...

    The job of POTUS, according to the founding documents (yeah, they are still relevant, even if folks prefer tabloid reality thinking)... is foreign relations.
    Does the USA really want a loudmouth that insults women as their representative?

    IMO the trumpet would be a worse representative of the USA... than any of the worse presidents we have had in modern times... like Carter, Clinton, or BHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Trump got kicked out of the RedState gathering this weekend... over inappropriate comments on the TV debate Thursday.

    Now lets think about this for a minute...

    The job of POTUS, according to the founding documents (yeah, they are still relevant, even if folks prefer tabloid reality thinking)... is foreign relations.
    Does the USA really want a loudmouth that insults women as their representative?

    IMO the trumpet would be a worse representative of the USA... than any of the worse presidents we have had in modern times... like Carter, Clinton, or BHO.
    Would you rather have someone who speaks nicely yet lies through their teeth because they are owned by corp America and special interest or someone who speaks sharply and is not owned by anyone? Seems like you are now backing political correctness?

    We've had all those other guys in office before. Let's try something new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Would you rather have someone who speaks nicely yet lies through their teeth because they are owned by corp America and special interest or someone who speaks sharply and is not owned by anyone? Seems like you are now backing political correctness?

    We've had all those other guys in office before. Let's try something new.
    Still pretty early and might be knee jerk on my part...but yeah. Might be time for something new...or maybe a return to old.

    Being nice and giving billions in aid countries that are regularly unkind to us has really gotten us no where but in debt.

    And, really...Rosie is a big fat pig. And China is killing us...Mexico is creating big headaches for us as well. Not being able to shop insurance across state lines is driving up costs. We are losing.

    I'm sick and tired of what this whole game has devolved to and I've been watching it as an adult for thirty years. To hell with politically correct establishment politicians who regurgitate the same old lines to get elected or stay in office and then get right back into bed with their handlers, the lobbyists and big corporations.

    Don't some of you, way down deep, feel the slight tug of puppet strings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtinhvac View Post
    Still pretty early and might be knee jerk on my part...but yeah. Might be time for something new...or maybe a return to old.

    Being nice and giving billions in aid countries that are regularly unkind to us has really gotten us no where but in debt.

    And, really...Rosie is a big fat pig. And China is killing us...Mexico is creating big headaches for us as well. Not being able to shop insurance across state lines is driving up costs. We are losing.

    I'm sick and tired of what this whole game has devolved to and I've been watching it as an adult for thirty years. To hell with politically correct establishment politicians who regurgitate the same old lines to get elected or stay in office and then get right back into bed with their handlers, the lobbyists and big corporations.

    Don't some of you, way down deep, feel the slight tug of puppet strings?
    Women should be able to see that he did not call an overweight, respectable woman a "fat pig."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Women should be able to see that he did not call an overweight, respectable woman a "fat pig."
    The left is always going to say that right wing conservatives hate women, or hate blacks, or they hate Mexicans, etc. It's all a crock of crap, and I'm glad Trump called out that feminist Meghan Kelly beotch. These people on the left should be called out for being the liars that they are with their false accusations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Trump got kicked out of the RedState gathering this weekend... over inappropriate comments on the TV debate Thursday.

    Now lets think about this for a minute...

    The job of POTUS, according to the founding documents (yeah, they are still relevant, even if folks prefer tabloid reality thinking)... is foreign relations.
    Does the USA really want a loudmouth that insults women as their representative?

    IMO the trumpet would be a worse representative of the USA... than any of the worse presidents we have had in modern times... like Carter, Clinton, or BHO.
    I guess you won't be voting for Trump is he goes 3rd party. Jebster?

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