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  1. #1
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    Puppy vs Fireplace Insert incident.

    So my 5 month old German Shepherd puppy decided to bite the air outlet that was plumed out to the exterior siding of the house. In addition to biting the outlet (Vent) she decided to pull it out which in turn she tool the aluminum vent out with it.

    So I don't start my HVAC school until January, but I figured maybe this would be something good for me to do myself since it's only an outlet and not an actual gas line or anything serious. (I Have never run my gas fireplace ever since I've owned the place)

    With that in mind, my question is this: AFTER I kick the dog (Just Kidding) how do I access the pipe?

    - Remove the insert to access it from inside the house?
    - Cut a hole in the exterior siding ? (Seems drastic)
    - Crawl underneath the house ?

    WTF over . . .

    (Pictures to follow)

  2. #2
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    It's hard to say becuse of different installation practices and house setup. I would try either popping out the insert or going under the house like you said. Do whatever one is easier first. I highly doubt that you'll need to do any modifications to your home.

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    Well if it goes out the SIDE of the house, its probably not an insert.

    Need to know a make/model of the fireplace to know what kind of install and venting you are dealing with.

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    My sheppys pulled the hose bib right of the house to get some water to play with! what bugs me is they twisted out until the pipe snapped in the open direction. If only the knew about twisting the knob instead of the pipe!

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    Here are the pictures. (The Little black one is the suspect, lol.)

    Gas insert is a Heatilater
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    Looks like a outside air intake for a prefab wood fireplace... still need that make/model.

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    Here is a photo of the insert. I see make but no model . . .
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    looks more like a log lighter set up.

    can you see where it connects inside the house?

    it may or may not actually connect to that unit.

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    I looked into the hole in the siding. I couldn't see anything but what looked like aluminum plate with no opening that way viewable from the opening. It could be duct work but I have no idea based on what I can see.

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    You must live somewhere where winter is warm.

    It does look like non insulated style 10 flex.

    Any idea where it hooked up or is it just a fresh air intake?

    You might have to peek behind the trim if it comes off.

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    Looks very familiar... but all the old Heatilators tend to look the same. If you want the model it would be on a rating plate riveted to the smoke shield or behind the screens on the left or right.

    Its definitely a fresh air intake for the unit. It should connect to a 4" collar on the side of the unit. If we knew the model I could look up a schematic to see exactly where the intake collar is.

    Probably going to have to get into that chase cavity to connect it back up again, also some models that intake was "optional" so if that's case you could just cover the hole up and leave it.

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    Thanks for the input guys, I'll keep you posted.

    And yeah, I live just outside San Francisco. It was 28 degree's the other day and everyone thought it was so cold that it was on the news, lol.

    Ahh California !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean129 View Post
    I looked into the hole in the siding. I couldn't see anything but what looked like aluminum plate with no opening that way viewable from the opening. It could be duct work but I have no idea based on what I can see.
    Send the black puppy in with a small video camera attached to his head.

    He owes you a favor anyway

    Take care.

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