What has happened to our military

[classical]

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This woman refuses to deploy in spite of having time to provide a proper caretaker for her child. Okay I understand that her mother returned the child when she could not deal with all of her responsibilities.

What I have a problem with is why this woman is allowed to remain in service. When I was in a troop that was mot married and got herself pregnant would be discharged post haste. We had morals clauses to live up to and getting pregnant without benefit of marriage is an immoral act.

I knew an officer 1st. LT that had an affair with his Captains wife. The Lt. was riffed from the Army the Captain was censured, transferred to another post and he and the wife had to go to counseling. The wife refused got a divorce and went off with the Lt. The Captain left the service at the end of his tour because his career was ruined.

We had a female Spec4 that got pregnant in Germany, she did not know who the father was but named numerous soldiers she has sex with. She received a general discharge medical under less than honorable conditions and all the soldiers she named received Article 15's.

All I can say is the military sure has changed for the worse!!

[Hugh B]

Classical, pretty much the entire nation is changing for the worse!

[corny]

Girls mommy runs a day care yet she cannot care for her own grandson.....

[glennac]

All that is true and also women don't belong in the military outside of being in the medical core. The Army had a study made in 68 when every male who could breathe was being drafted and recommended that women not be integrated into the regular Army in non combat jobs such as clerks, cooks, etc. The main reason is because it would cost the taxpayers a lot more money for three reasons.

1. Women have a much higher drop out rate than men due to mental break downs, getting pregnant, etc. and the Army was out all that money spent on training, deployment, etc.

2. Women had a much higher sick call rate than men. They can't take the regards of training, duty work for long hours, etc. Less time on duty than men

3. Women had a much lower reenlistment rate than men and thus costing more money to recruit and retrain new troops instead of retaining good experienced soldiers.

This was duly reported in the Army Times back in 68. Never forgot the article. I believe it is as true today as it was then. But definitely not PC. Thank you, thank you very much.

[Hugh B]

All that is true and also women don't belong in the military outside of being in the medical core. The Army had a study made in 68 when every male who could breathe was being drafted and recommended that women not be integrated into the regular Army in non combat jobs such as clerks, cooks, etc. The main reason is because it would cost the taxpayers a lot more money for three reasons.

1. Women have a much higher drop out rate than men due to mental break downs, getting pregnant, etc. and the Army was out all that money spent on training, deployment, etc.

2. Women had a much higher sick call rate than men. They can't take the regards of training, duty work for long hours, etc. Less time on duty than men

3. Women had a much lower reenlistment rate than men and thus costing more money to recruit and retrain new troops instead of retaining good experienced soldiers.

This was duly reported in the Army Times back in 68. Never forgot the article. I believe it is as true today as it was then. But definitely not PC. Thank you, thank you very much.

Glen

I have to give you credit for having the nerve to post your opinion on women in the military. Yor certianly are not PC.

I also have to agree with you. I also don't think police officers should be female either regardless of the fact that several female officers have used their firearms to properly stop some bad guys and I am glad they were there, armed and able and willing. All that proves is that a gun is a great equalizer regardless of the age or sex of the user.

[ncboston]

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This woman refuses to deploy in spite of having time to provide a proper caretaker for her child. Okay I understand that her mother returned the child when she could not deal with all of her responsibilities.

What I have a problem with is why this woman is allowed to remain in service. When I was in a troop that was mot married and got herself pregnant would be discharged post haste. We had morals clauses to live up to and getting pregnant without benefit of marriage is an immoral act.

I knew an officer 1st. LT that had an affair with his Captains wife. The Lt. was riffed from the Army the Captain was censured, transferred to another post and he and the wife had to go to counseling. The wife refused got a divorce and went off with the Lt. The Captain left the service at the end of his tour because his career was ruined.

We had a female Spec4 that got pregnant in Germany, she did not know who the father was but named numerous soldiers she has sex with. She received a general discharge medical under less than honorable conditions and all the soldiers she named received Article 15's.

All I can say is the military sure has changed for the worse!!

We didn't have those problems in the Infantry.

[classical]

Glen

I have to give you credit for having the nerve to post your opinion on women in the military. Yor certianly are not PC.

I also have to agree with you. I also don't think police officers should be female either regardless of the fact that several female officers have used their firearms to properly stop some bad guys and I am glad they were there, armed and able and willing. All that proves is that a gun is a great equalizer regardless of the age or sex of the user.

I do not agree that women should not be allowed in the military they have served with distinction and valor in many countries and from before Colonial times. The officer that brought down Hasan was a woman! Look at that British medic that in spite of being wounded attended to the wounded in her command and refused to be evacuated because there were others that needed her attention.

I think most women are not fit for combat rolls but some are and if so inclined should have the opportunity.

My point is the lack of morals required of a soldier and in fact our nation as a whole. This particular woman like many got into the military to escape a bad home life and a dead-end existence in Oakland. I knew many females that did an admirable job in my unit when I was serving.

Corny it is not the mother’s responsibility to take care of that child; she has two other family members to attend to as well as running a daycare. What happened to the woman being responsible and not getting pregnant when she was not married; and what about the father of the child where is he in this? If a man participates in the making of a child he should be responsible for the care and financial well being of the mother and child.

[glennac]

I do not agree that women should not be allowed in the military they have served with distinction and valor in many countries and from before Colonial times. The officer that brought down Hasan was a woman! Look at that British medic that in spite of being wounded attended to the wounded in her command and refused to be evacuated because there were others that needed her attention.

I think most women are not fit for combat rolls but some are and if so inclined should have the opportunity.

My point is the lack of morals required of a soldier and in fact our nation as a whole. This particular woman like many got into the military to escape a bad home life and a dead-end existence in Oakland. I knew many females that did an admirable job in my unit when I was serving.

Corny it is not the mother’s responsibility to take care of that child; she has two other family members to attend to as well as running a daycare. What happened to the woman being responsible and not getting pregnant when she was not married; and what about the father of the child where is he in this? If a man participates in the making of a child he should be responsible for the care and financial well being of the mother and child.

Sorry classical you are spouting the PC line hook and sinker. Women are not as strong as men. The military mission requires super human endurance for all. Truck drivers as well as combat troops. That study I quoted was no joke and I'm sure it is just as true today as then.

I had an Aunt who served as a WAC. Before going in she was a registered nurse and the Army gave her a commission and sent her to school to become an Anesthesiologists and promoted to a Captain. Well she served one tour of duty and got out and got married. The Army had to train another one all over again.

That is one example from my family. Taxpayers will be better off if we went back to the old program in effect up until Carter came in. Women were in the WACs (Woman's Army Core) and not in the regular Army. I think sometimes you try to be too nice there Classical. Thank you, thank you very much.

[Hugh B]

Sorry classical you are spouting the PC line hook and sinker. Women are not as strong as men. The military mission requires super human endurance for all. Truck drivers as well as combat troops. That study I quoted was no joke and I'm sure it is just as true today as then.

I had an Aunt who served as a WAC. Before going in she was a registered nurse and the Army gave her a commission and sent her to school to become an Anesthesiologists and promoted to a Captain. Well she served one tour of duty and got out and got married. The Army had to train another one all over again.

That is one example from my family. Taxpayers will be better off if we went back to the old program in effect up until Carter came in. Women were in the WACs (Woman's Army Core) and not in the regular Army. I think sometimes you try to be too nice there Classical. Thank you, thank you very much.

Glen, you are right on in my opinion.

[sline-dawg]

I had an Aunt who served as a WAC. Before going in she was a registered nurse and the Army gave her a commission and sent her to school to become an Anesthesiologists and promoted to a Captain. Well she served one tour of duty and got out and got married. The Army had to train another one all over again.

And your point being....... She served out her contract and moved on with her life..... Should she have become an indentured servant..... and being a weakling and all, sounds like she did the right thing....

[Hugh B]

And your point being....... She served out her contract and moved on with her life..... Should she have become an indentured servant..... and being a weakling and all, sounds like she did the right thing....

Boy sline, did you miss Glenn's point and twist it into something he did not say.

[glennac]

Boy sline, did you miss Glenn's point and twist it into something he did not say.

Yeah like right over sline's head. Whooosh.

Hey sline the point being the tax payers lost several thousand dollars back in 61 when she got out. You know you can't train an Anesthesiologists for nothing. She served one tour in Korea and out. She couldn't stand the duty in Korea. A man probably could have handled it a lot better. Catch my drift.

I served in Korea in the 7th Inf Div (crushed beer can) back in 67-68 in frozen fox holes facing North into the Siberian blizzard at 3 in the morning but I took it and then went to Nam. Well I tried I guess you just don't like to drink the water. Must have came from a stubborn line of horses there sline. Hope you don't die from thirst. Have a good day. Thank you, thank you very much.

[sline-dawg]

Oh, I see..... They set the ground rules for the contract.... she fulfills it and it's her fault we have to train another anesthesiologist...



I did ask for clarification.... I guess she should STILL be there....