Lets see, I think I have the longest running most viewed thread, but we won't go into that right now. Also, I wasn't in the first 5 members but I did manage to run them off I think, they weren't that great anyway, and I am quite sure that one large gray patch in the back of Don's head was my doing as well I know I can often be a royal PIA but thanks for the site, it is the best on the net, no one else in this biz is even close.