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    Plumbers gas pipe

    this was the only 1 out of 8 units piped with a sediment trap.
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    Dont see that one catching much sediment. I'm wondering if it isnt a pressure test point or a line purge point???

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    unreal, it blows me away as to how stupid some installers are.

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    Nice new black pipe going into a rusty piece at unit. Afterall, those darn reducing tees should come with instructions. Or maybe they couldn't read the Chinese directions.
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    Exclamation improper piping

    First of all, the tee shown is not a sediment trap. In order to be considered a sediment trap, it must have a 90* vertical axis so the leg functions as a trash can using gravity.

    That pipe must be protected from the element such as painting or wrapping.

    The pipe is inadequately supported.

    The issue of sed. traps outdoors is controverial. Some AHJs prohibit it fearing condensate freezing while others don't see liquid condensate but do see particulate foreign matter that does get catch in the traps. The code just says all gas utilization equipment must have sed. traps except fireplaces.

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    whats with the condensate or lack there of???

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    Quote Originally Posted by houtonjr View Post
    whats with the condensate or lack there of???
    NAT. gas has alot of moisture in it last winter here in okl. I had alot of reg. freeze up no gas to the buildings so you can see how the sed. trap could freeze and rupture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike robinson View Post
    NAT. gas has alot of moisture in it last winter here in okl. I had alot of reg. freeze up no gas to the buildings so you can see how the sed. trap could freeze and rupture.
    i was refering to the condensate line not being there they put a P-trap but nothing else

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    Quote Originally Posted by houtonjr View Post
    i was refering to the condensate line not being there they put a P-trap but nothing else
    Normal commercial rooftop installation of condensate drain. nothing more is needed, water runs onto roof just as rain would fall onto it.

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    give the guy some credit

    the cut-off is

    upstream

    of the union & tee.
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    In Florida we have to drain condensate off of the roof at least in a roof scuffer or it will not pass code.

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    Up here most units just have the ptrap off the condensate dripping onto the roof. Sometimes a patio block will be put under it to dissipate the water so its not constantly hitting the same point on the roof.

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    Same here. Just pipe it out onto the roof appropriately to meet the manufacturer requirements and nothing more. From time to time the customer or we run a longer drain to a particular point for various reasons. 99% are like the unit pictured in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrishvacman View Post
    In Florida we have to drain condensate off of the roof at least in a roof scuffer or it will not pass code.
    It is called a Scupper.

    When I took the test for my Certified Plumbers license there were a couple of questions on the exam about the minimum size of Roof Scuppers, a few of the guys I was talking to after the exam didn't know what they were.

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    I was trying to remember how to spell Scupper thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvac248 View Post
    this was the only 1 out of 8 units piped with a sediment trap.
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    at least it won't freeze...

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    I'm willing to bet that the installer ran out of 90's and used a tee and a cap to finish it up.

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    that drip leg is going to do a whole lot of nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowirenut View Post
    Normal commercial rooftop installation of condensate drain. nothing more is needed, water runs onto roof just as rain would fall onto it.
    that wont pass inspection around here if they dont go off the roof.... some of the older inspectors wanna see copper still
    Last edited by houtonjr; 10-27-2009 at 01:11 AM. Reason: spelling what else

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    Thanks for the chuckle, thats a good one.

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