Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 13 of 15
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    new york
    Posts
    6

    Newb in need of help

    Hello everyone. I need a little help with my father's heating and a/c system. He has owned the house only a few years. During the summer he lost power at his house which resulted in all the settings of his system being reset (his battery backup needs to be replaced). Even with the switch for the system off the heat would run even if it was hot outside. The problem now with it being so cold is that some rooms are extremely hot while others are cold. There is no control over the unit.

    So we contacted a few places to come look at the system and was told that they were not equipped to work with our system. One guy told us that he knows a few people that might be able to help. He later told us the guy that has the equipment and software moved away a while back. We also got an estimate from a local guy who said he could fix it for $ dollars. Just to change the settings? That didn't seem right to me.

    I did find some time of computer that was near the heating and a/c system that seems like something I can use. But I'm not sure. So I am in need of a little information on what my options are and if there are any software/control units that I can use. I don't know anything about the system so I took some pics that could help. Thanks for any advice and help in advance and I apologize if I posted in the wrong section.




    Last edited by beenthere; 10-21-2009 at 12:40 PM. Reason: Removed price

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    3,108
    That's a pretty sophisticated system for a house... It's possible one of the other regulars here knows someone in your neck of the woods who can speak CCN. I don't think Carrier makes house calls.

    The "computer" in the first picture is an interface used for setting up the system and it's operating schedule. I wouldn't advise experimenting with it.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    15
    It looks like there is a nice thick manual sitting there pic #2. have you gone through it? I would get as much information as you can from all of the various pieces and then call carrier or a local carrier rep. explain to them the situation with the model numbers and see what they suggest.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    new york
    Posts
    6
    Quote Originally Posted by CHAMBERD View Post
    It looks like there is a nice thick manual sitting there pic #2. have you gone through it? I would get as much information as you can from all of the various pieces and then call carrier or a local carrier rep. explain to them the situation with the model numbers and see what they suggest.
    The manual is actually for an old modem that is connected to the system.. I don't know what the modem actually does.

    I've looked around for some kind of documentation that would give me any kind of information on the system. I found nothing, so I don't know the model number .


    Quote Originally Posted by BergerMech Rob View Post
    That's a pretty sophisticated system for a house... It's possible one of the other regulars here knows someone in your neck of the woods who can speak CCN. I don't think Carrier makes house calls.

    The "computer" in the first picture is an interface used for setting up the system and it's operating schedule. I wouldn't advise experimenting with it.

    Yeah, the original owner of the house went a little nuts with the system.

    Oh, so that's what that computer is for.. I'm glad I didn't mess around with it.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Southeastern Pa
    Posts
    18,257
    I'm wondering why your father did not have this commercial-level control scheme removed from the house and a more conventional system installed?

    I can tell you that the companies that make systems of this type are very protective of the intellectual property surrounding these systems. This means that the previous owner either was a service tech or rep for this system, or had easy access to someone who was such an insider.

    For the long term, I would get rid of this and have a contractor install conventional, simple controls.
    [Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
    2 Tim 3:16-17

    RSES CMS, HVAC Electrical Specialist

    AOP Forum Rules:







  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Muskegon, Mi.
    Posts
    425
    Judging by the photos on Image Shack this is a apartment building. Appears to be 8 mini splits.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    new york
    Posts
    6
    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    I'm wondering why your father did not have this commercial-level control scheme removed from the house and a more conventional system installed?
    This is his first house so I don't think he knew the difference between a regular and commercial level.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    new york
    Posts
    6
    Quote Originally Posted by woodsman View Post
    Judging by the photos on Image Shack this is a apartment building. Appears to be 8 mini splits.
    Not an apartment. It's a house.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Denver, CO
    Posts
    4,229
    Wow that's quite a system for a house and a dinosaur. How big of a house is this? From what I can tell the house is zoned with VAV boxes or dampers. If thats the case I would install a Carrier 3V controller.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Beautiful, Philadelphia, the City of Brotherly Love!
    Posts
    1,096
    Who is your father Obama?

    That the most complicated system I have ever seen for a single family house.
    The most insane customer I have has 35 tons in his house, it is mostly glass and of course he likes light so it faces directly into the sun.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    new york
    Posts
    6
    haha, my dad's not Obama. The house is something like 6000 sq ft.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Lancaster PA
    Posts
    67,879
    Don't take this wrong.

    But if someone buys a 6000 sq ft house. With a system like that.
    Then the price to repair that control system, should be no shock.
    Proprietary controls systems, have a big price tag for installation, and repair.
    Contractor locator map

    How-to-apply-for-Professional

    How many times must one fix something before it is fixed?

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    new york
    Posts
    6
    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    Don't take this wrong.

    But if someone buys a 6000 sq ft house. With a system like that.
    Then the price to repair that control system, should be no shock.
    Proprietary controls systems, have a big price tag for installation, and repair.
    No I won't take it the wrong way. Feel free to speak freely. I understand what you mean though. But He's my dad so I just want to make sure no one is taking advantage of him. In my head I didn't feel like my dad being quoted $xxxx just for someone pressing a few buttons on their computer for a few minutes. Now obviously I am here to learn and you guys would know more. If that seems about right then I will know for next time. But that doesn't matter now because he was a dead end also.

    But even if the price was perfect the problem is still trying to find someone who has the equipment. That's why I'm trying to get as much info as I can. If I can find the equipment then I can just fix it for him next time something goes wrong and not worry about finding someone. If in the end I can't find a solution then I will start looking into upgrades. But that will have to wait for a day when I am not swamped with school work.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Comfortech Show Promo Image

Related Forums

Plumbing Talks | Contractor Magazine
Forums | Electrical Construction & Maintenance (EC&M) Magazine
Comfortech365 Virtual Event