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    Twilli says its a shame states do little more than rake in the revnues and do little to nothing to protect licensed professionals in the trades.

    Twilli says try practicing law without a license. God forbid
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    Quote Originally Posted by twilli3967 View Post
    Twilli says its a shame states do little more than rake in the revnues and do little to nothing to protect licensed professionals in the trades.

    Twilli says try practicing law without a license. God forbid
    ...or medicine. Hoy Vey!
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    Quote Originally Posted by allan38 View Post
    Here's a link to a news article on licensing crackdown.
    http://www.kvue.com/news/local/stori...b.2eb654c.html

    And here's a TDLR news release on another one.


    TDLR Files Agreed Orders - $2,500 in Penalties Assessed

    March 24, 2009
    For Immediate Release
    Contact: Susan Stanford
    512-463-3208

    AUSTIN - Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation (TDLR) Agreed Orders assessed penalties totaling $2,500.

    Bernardo O. Garcia, d/b/a A-C Express of San Antonio, Texas, was fined $1,000 for allowing an unlicensed individual to use his air conditioning and refrigeration contractor’s license to purchase and install air conditioning equipment into a residence in San Antonio.

    Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation licenses are issued to individuals who have proven they possess the required knowledge to safely practice their trade and who have passed a Department of Public Safety criminal background check. The licenses are for the individual’s use only and it is a violation to loan or share the license.

    Elevinio Varos, d/b/a/ Comfort Heating & Air Conditioning of San Antonio, Texas, was cited for performing air conditioning installation work without proper licensure by the State of Texas. The Class B violation received an administrative penalty of $1,500.

    For more information on the air conditioning and refrigeration program please visit the TDLR website at www.license.state.tx.us.
    Created in 1909 as the Bureau of Labor Statistics, TDLR is celebrating its centennial anniversary. TDLR protects the public welfare and safety and promotes a fair and competitive business environment by regulating twenty-six diverse industries and programs, including barbering, cosmetology, boxing, air conditioning contractors, and architectural barriers.


    I think the state will have a problem with Mr. Garcia's case.
    I just got two invoices in, with an unauthorized signer. They weren't for equipment but, see where I'm going?
    The supply house shouldn't have sold them anything. Period.
    Not much I could have done. Not having any knowledge of what was happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green jumper View Post
    The guys in PA should of just went to a different state and got there licenses, at that point they could of moved back and performed work without being called a hack. Do I have to figure out these things for you BT?
    That would only work if the states had reciprocating lic agreement.

    I think this thread kinda got off track here somehow.

    Beenthere, I never said nor implied that if you had no lic. you are a hack. I only asked for thoughts about the letter from the Gov. Sanford a republican. I know good people that know absolutly nothing about this trade and they own successful businesses some are have their own lic., some use a qualifying party.

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    Grah Pubah of Licencing

    Just were is Steve? I would have thought he'd be all over this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allan38 View Post
    Bernardo O. Garcia, d/b/a A-C Express of San Antonio, Texas, was fined $1,000 for allowing an unlicensed individual to use his air conditioning and refrigeration contractor’s license to purchase and install air conditioning equipment into a residence in San Antonio.
    It's called "fronting", I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by absoair View Post

    I think this thread kinda got off track here somehow.
    This thread is a tricky thing. Since not all states have license for HVAC.

    In some states. HVAC techs can't run a thermostat wire. Without an electrical license.
    In others. they can run the line voltage without an electrical license.

    Licensing could be a good thing. If all states enforced it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrbenny View Post
    Just curious....

    What's your hourly rate?
    I would say but can't talk about pricing. It's up there

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    In MD, out of 22,000 inmates only 38 are in prison for fraud, if operating without a license is fraud. There are bigger fish to fry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoIsThat? View Post
    In MD, out of 22,000 inmates only 38 are in prison for fraud, if operating without a license is fraud. There are bigger fish to fry.
    That might be true but, if you try it, you'll get caught, and get a big ole fine.
    But, being the lucky guy you are, no jail time.

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    Question:

    If the local laws require a license, is it more professional to have it?

    I am referring to an attitude and choice here.
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    I would have to say yes.

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