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  1. #14
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    yaaa that may be kinda high dont rely on comission, ull prolly look at anywhere to 7-11 dollars an hours depending on employer/type of work for the first years. ull make most of ur money on OT and prolly comission (never been paid by comission so i dunno) what i meant wit turnover is that it always seems companys change guys at a pretty decent rate, one plus is its usually pretty easy to find a place that needs guys (sometimes) and theres so many areas for u to learn and take on from there, id say ur best bet with schoolin would be to do that hands on stuff, i did a program for a year and alot of it was book work and it didnt help me too much, i honestly learned everything the first 1-2 years on the job.

    and now to take a shot at a cop....it might be hard the first couple years doing this bc ud hav to take orders from the guys that have been doing it longer hahah

    stay safe out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktmguy23 View Post
    I currently work in the law enforcement field where I have been for the last five years. I am basically getting tired of the hours, working all the weekends holidays etc...

    I possibly have an opportunity to enter into the HVAC field. I currently have no experience but have found a company who will hire me in. Basically this would include me attending a one month school and then coming back and working with an experienced tech. I would then be cut loose after that initial field training and begin to do I am assuming basic service work.

    I have checked and the company is very reputable. My question is would this be a good way to enter the field??? I believe during that month long school I would gain my NATE certification and I believe one other. Looking for advice as I need to make my decision here in the very near future. Thanks in advance.
    One big question is what happens if you fail to meet their sales targets? You know, those targets that they are basing your annual salary on.

    Projected $35,000 salary divided by 2000 working hours = $17.50 an hour. That is pretty good money for someone with a months worth of schooling... and on the non-union side. That's more than a first year apprentice makes in the Chicago area... if that apprentice is employed.

    Of course it could be $8.50 an hour and a bunch of OT.

    Check local help wanted ads to find out what the base pay should be at.

    The service company is owned by an equipment manufacturer? One hand feeding the other, eh?

    Do you think you will have regular hours and no holiday work in the HVAC field?

    Have you talked with anyone employed by the company?

    Could be a great opportunity, and take it if you want... but there could be a reason why a company will hire and school someone with zero experience. High pressure sales and turnover come to mind. If that is the environment, who will hire you with a months worth of schooling when you get tired of swindling people to make sales targets... or fired for not making sales targets?

    If you leave the law enforcement field, and after 5 years you gotta be close to vesting or already vested in a pension, I would be damned sure I could get back in if things didn't work out. There is no shortage of unemployed or underemployed HVAC people on this message board. Yeah, some people are real busy... maybe the company you are looking at is real busy too.

    I would think long and hard about leaving a paying job with crappy hours to start somewhere where you are making assumptions about the month of schooling, certifications and your responsibilities afterwards. I would suggest finding out a lot more about what you are getting into.

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    ether he got scared and moved on or he ask some deep questions of the company he was looking at and told them off....ether way i have not herd from him.

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    I am back. See I told you I had bad hours... Anyway I have a meeting with the company tomorrow to hopefully get some more detailed insight. I guess I will have to make a decision in the next couple of days...

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    you want to work as a residential HVAC guy, with all the other mystery of the job and all that, your willing to leave your job as a cop?

    Sounds weird to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dowadudda View Post
    you want to work as a residential HVAC guy, with all the other mystery of the job and all that, your willing to leave your job as a cop?

    Sounds weird to me.
    I'd be looking at a PI gig, instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktmguy23 View Post
    I currently work in the law enforcement field where I have been for the last five years. I am basically getting tired of the hours, working all the weekends holidays etc...
    Then you are looking at the wrong field, my friend.

  8. #21
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    Probationary period?

    What about taking some community college classes or buy a fundamentals in Air conditioning book to see if this field is what you would WANT to do before jumping ship in turbulent waters?
    A stable job right now might be an asset.

    Not trying to talk you out of changing your opportunities... just throwing out a relatively cheap suggestion.

  9. #22
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    I am a full time police officer and attended HVAC school last winter. Working part time for a friend's company just to learn the ropes. I had worked for a company throughout high school and college, and my father is an electrician. I've always had an interest in the trades, but more love for law enforcement. Anyhow, I enjoy this field and am enjoying the learning (I also realized that I don't know sh*t after getting out of school). My advice, stay where you are. In this economy there aren't many jobs that are secure. Law enforcement is pretty secure. Also, you don't want to start a new career now, in an economy where there are many many experienced techs looking for work. Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neophytes serendipity View Post
    Of course it could be $8.50 an hour and a bunch of OT.
    My first job in the trade was 8.50 and ALL the ot.

    Take a serious look before making any life changing decisions. The other thing to consider is will you be married to this company(Trane? sounds like them) because they sent you to school. It may be worth your while to enroll in a school or college that offers HVAC your self so your the one invested and not owned by that company. Some companies who send you to school will make you sign a contract to pay for the schooling if you quit or that you wont work within so much time after quiting, non competion claus I think it is. You got to keep your options open.

    A contractor I worked for tried to nail me for a day long Manitowoc seminar he sent me too.

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